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Post by Cheerfan on May 4, 2012 17:50:13 GMT -5
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Post by Indy Raider on May 5, 2012 2:24:23 GMT -5
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Post by Indy Raider on May 5, 2012 2:25:30 GMT -5
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Post by Cheerfan on May 6, 2012 10:06:25 GMT -5
Evansville keeps popping up on twitter and in a few articles here and there. I don't know why they would want to get out of the MVC, but if they did they would be an ideal fit.
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Post by mrose on May 8, 2012 13:51:19 GMT -5
Raider Fanatic, that was me who you tried to "take to task" by saying the Horizon without Butler wouldn't be much better, if at all, than than MAAC. You're correct--15th is SO MUCH better than 18. Let's hang the banner in the Nutter--"Horizon League, The 15th best conference in the Land", and a one bid league just like all those leagues below us.
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Post by Indy Raider on May 8, 2012 18:22:56 GMT -5
Raider Fanatic, that was me who you tried to "take to task" by saying the Horizon without Butler wouldn't be much better, if at all, than than MAAC. You're correct--15th is SO MUCH better than 18. Let's hang the banner in the Nutter--"Horizon League, The 15th best conference in the Land", and a one bid league just like all those leagues below us. Seriously, some of you guys need to look at the big picture and not one season. Last year was a down year for the HL as a whole. Butler wasn't the only team to have an off year. Most of the teams in the conference did. We were the 14th rated conference and we only had 2 teams ranked in the top 100 (barely). WSU had it's worst RPI in almost a decade. The year before, the HL was ranked 11th and had 4 teams in the top 100, with WSU just outside the top 100 too. The HL has up and down seasons, but more often than not we are in the 11-12 range vs the 14-15 range. If we add 3-5 teams to the conference like everyone thinks and they are teams in the top 100 range, we will consistently be a top 10 conference and should be able to get multiple bids every year. Even if we just add Oakland, there is no reason we can't stay a top 10-15 conference that gets an at large bid every few years. If you look at the conferences RPI the last decade, Butler was the only team to get an at large bid. That doesn't mean other schools couldn't have gotten an at large bid too. Several of the teams that beat Butler to get the automatic bid for the HL would have been a contender for an at large bid on their own merits.
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Post by Sixth Man on May 8, 2012 20:00:43 GMT -5
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Post by Rush the Court on May 8, 2012 20:09:04 GMT -5
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Post by Indy Raider on May 9, 2012 19:38:56 GMT -5
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Post by Cheerfan on May 10, 2012 6:17:42 GMT -5
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Post by Raider Country on May 10, 2012 20:30:44 GMT -5
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Post by coogles on May 11, 2012 8:54:35 GMT -5
I see everyone poo-poo the IUPU schools all the time, but I honestly don't see any real differences between IPFW & IUPUI versus the other satellite universities already in the Horizon in UWM, UWBG & UIC, or even the other urban public university in Cleveland State. Both have access to civic arenas for basketball. IPFW already uses the Memorial Coliseum and IUPUI could use Banker's or the to-be-renovated Pepsi Coliseum at the Indiana State Fairgrounds.
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Post by bballraider on May 11, 2012 17:23:41 GMT -5
I see everyone poo-poo the IUPU schools all the time, but I honestly don't see any real differences between IPFW & IUPUI versus the other satellite universities already in the Horizon in UWM, UWBG & UIC, or even the other urban public university in Cleveland State. Both have access to civic arenas for basketball. IPFW already uses the Memorial Coliseum and IUPUI could use Banker's or the to-be-renovated Pepsi Coliseum at the Indiana State Fairgrounds. IUPUI doesn't have baseball. The HL needs schools with baseball to protect the league's automatic bid in baseball. Without baseball IUPUI is not an attractive choice for the league.
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Post by Indy Raider on May 11, 2012 18:51:42 GMT -5
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Post by Indy Raider on May 11, 2012 19:03:35 GMT -5
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