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Post by riceownz2 on Dec 3, 2011 13:24:50 GMT -5
Usually there mistake leads to a foul but watch during the game. When someone makes a defensive mistake, BD will more than likely take them out. Example was when CSU got a fast break on us Wednesday night and Tavares got the foul, he took AJ out because he said it was his responsibility to stop the fast break and he didn't.
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Post by Jazzfan on Dec 4, 2011 10:39:03 GMT -5
I like the adjustments coach has made the last few games but I still wish he would use our bench some more. I don't understand why Sledge only played a few minutes yesterday or why we are barely using Griffin or Cuffee at all this year.
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Post by wolf41 on Dec 4, 2011 11:23:23 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you Jazzfan. We have three talented freshmen sitting on the bench watching, but not getting any game experience, or little game experience. Maybe between now and our return to HL play in late Dec. these guys will all get some court time. As A fan I always want to see the new freshmen play. These guys were strong players in HS and I want to see how they measure up in game situations since we never get to see them in a practice situation or even in the off season.
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Post by Raider Grad on Dec 4, 2011 13:15:36 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you Jazzfan. We have three talented freshmen sitting on the bench watching, but not getting any game experience, or little game experience. Maybe between now and our return to HL play in late Dec. these guys will all get some court time. As A fan I always want to see the new freshmen play. These guys were strong players in HS and I want to see how they measure up in game situations since we never get to see them in a practice situation or even in the off season. This is a problem I think Donlon learned from Brownell. Neither coach seems to like to go very deep into their bench and neither seem to like to play freshmen unless they are really forced to do it. That is a continuous problem because we don't prepare our young players to step up when they are upperclassmen and we go through these early season growing pains as we try to build an identity as a team. I really think we would be a much better team at the end of the year and in future seasons if we were at least giving some of these young players 5 minutes a game of playing time. It would keep our starters more rested each game and later in the year and it would help develop these young guys.
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Post by keithfromxenia on Dec 5, 2011 16:03:03 GMT -5
just a thought wolf and raider, first, bd and our coaches see these guys every day in practice. they know what they can do and contribute. if they are limiting their minutes there is a good reason for it. as fans we think our freshmen recruits should be stepping in right away and getting it done. but mid major recruits, the level that we recruit, take time to learn and develop. they will get better but it is pretty unusual for freshmen to be major contributors at our level. i think what reggie has done for us is exceptional. but they are freshmen.
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Post by Raider Grad on Dec 5, 2011 18:21:43 GMT -5
just a thought wolf and raider, first, bd and our coaches see these guys every day in practice. they know what they can do and contribute. if they are limiting their minutes there is a good reason for it. as fans we think our freshmen recruits should be stepping in right away and getting it done. but mid major recruits, the level that we recruit, take time to learn and develop. they will get better but it is pretty unusual for freshmen to be major contributors at our level. i think what reggie has done for us is exceptional. but they are freshmen. Keith I don't expect any of our freshmen to be major contributors. I just want them to get some court time (5 minutes a game) to start getting them ready to be contributors as sophomores on.
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Post by wolf41 on Dec 6, 2011 7:23:32 GMT -5
Sorry KofX, but I agree with Raider Grad. These freshmen have been here since June or so. They have been in practices since mid-Oct. They have logged many hours playing ball and running drills. I think we should be seeing these guys on the court in real game situations for maybe 5 minutes or so a game. If they gradually play better and better, then maybe their time will expand, but in the meantime our other players will get some rest which will benefit them as the season wears on. I am hopeful that we'll see more of these players beginning this month 4 home games on the schedule. I am thankful that Pacher, Darling, Vest, and Hall got to play meaningful minutes last season. Imagine where we'd be this year if they had ridden the bench all last year.
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Post by cincyraider on Dec 6, 2011 14:28:03 GMT -5
There is no substitute for real game time experience. I hope the coaches can find a way to get Cuffee and Griffin some meaningful minutes each game. Maybe a full court press and trap package.
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Post by Raider4Life on Dec 7, 2011 22:43:57 GMT -5
I would like Coach to teach this team how to make a shot.
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Post by Bomber on Dec 7, 2011 23:04:13 GMT -5
Coach needs to start working on a way to create more offense.
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Post by raiders93 on Dec 7, 2011 23:23:16 GMT -5
I know BD is big on defense but you have to work on offense, especially after our early offensive performances this season so far!
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Post by keithfromxenia on Dec 8, 2011 15:03:06 GMT -5
raider and wolf, if you look you will see that our freshmen are getting minutes. you say you want them to get 5mpg. well, reggie is playing 27, tavaras -12, kendall-9 & jason- 8. and they get them as they earn them in practice. believe me, when our coaches see that one of those freshmen can help them win a game, do you really think they won't play them??? of course they will. but i hope they do not play them to make them better next year. but the coaching staff is in the best position to make those calls, not us. honestly, there are two things about coaches i never criticize. first, strategy, because even our dumbest coach knows more in his little pinkie than i do in my whole, small brain. second is player utilization, because those coaches see things in practice that i am never privy to. i always assume our coaches are going to use the player that give us the best chance to win. (exception to that was the es/marcus may fiasco, never understood that). as fans i think we way, way overestimate what our freshmen can do. last year our freshmen gave us about 13-15 ppg. right now our freshmen are giving us about 15 ppg. i think that is pretty good production for a group of mid major freshmen recruits.
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Post by Glory Days on Dec 8, 2011 22:08:55 GMT -5
raider and wolf, if you look you will see that our freshmen are getting minutes. Last night was one game and that is not representative of how Donlon has been playing our freshmen. We have played 9 games this year. Kendall Griffin has only played in 7 of those 9 games. Jason Cuffee has only played in 4 of them.
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Post by keithfromxenia on Dec 9, 2011 12:17:07 GMT -5
not sure of your point glory. are our coaches too stupid to recognize the right guys to play in each circumstance. if so, we should fire them all. other possibility is that they only play the guys that give us the best chance to win. frankly, when it comes to pt, i will go with the coaches. i really do think they know what they are doing. we message board critics....not so much.
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Post by Glory Days on Dec 9, 2011 13:03:36 GMT -5
not sure of your point glory. are our coaches too stupid to recognize the right guys to play in each circumstance. if so, we should fire them all. other possibility is that they only play the guys that give us the best chance to win. frankly, when it comes to pt, i will go with the coaches. i really do think they know what they are doing. we message board critics....not so much. Yeah. Our coaches are perfect and never make the wrong decisions. I guess that is why we are 3-6 on the year. Donlon, like our team is young and had no head coaching experience before we gave him his break as a head coach. He is getting his chance to get some on the job training. All any of us are asking is for our young players to get the same chance to learn on the job we are affording our head coach. Sledge, for example, is not going to become a great back to the basket post player unless he gets to go up against other good post players in games. He won't get that experience going against Johann or AJ at practice.
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