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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 4:37:39 GMT -5
I just went to Bill Potter's twitter page and asked him are the league members getting a substantial amount for our rights or are they for free? I'd be shocked if he responded. He hasn't answered the Cleveland State guy, Pronkville08, yet (unless he direct messaged him).
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Post by Retired Coach on May 4, 2014 9:07:21 GMT -5
It cannot possibly be the same type of deal. We have GOT to be getting something in return except exposure! Maybe we'll get an announcement soon. You do realize the last contact we signed with ESPN was after Butler's first trip to the NCAA championship game. If LeCrone wasn't able to get a paycheck from ESPN then, do you seriously think he was able to negotiate anything better now?
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Post by raiders41 on May 4, 2014 9:19:27 GMT -5
It cannot possibly be the same type of deal. We have GOT to be getting something in return except exposure! Maybe we'll get an announcement soon. You do realize the last contact we signed with ESPN was after Butler's first trip to the NCAA championship game. If LeCrone wasn't able to get a paycheck from ESPN then, do you seriously think he was able to negotiate anything better now? The Big East was also still on ESPN. The Horizon League should and probably will be getting a much better deal than what they have in the past with less conferences to compete with for ESPN airtime. As far as I am concerned I haven't heard of any new conferences signing with ESPN. If you look at this season and the previous you'll see that the amount of games that we had on an ESPN channel doubled. Staying on ESPN is the best option unless there is a network that is going to offer us a bigger contract which I don't think there would be. But why don't we wait for the details to come out about this deal before we start bashing it, just an idea
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Post by Retired Coach on May 4, 2014 9:52:49 GMT -5
The Big East was also still on ESPN. The Horizon League should and probably will be getting a much better deal than what they have in the past with less conferences to compete with for ESPN airtime. As far as I am concerned I haven't heard of any new conferences signing with ESPN. If you look at this season and the previous you'll see that the amount of games that we had on an ESPN channel doubled. Staying on ESPN is the best option unless there is a network that is going to offer us a bigger contract which I don't think there would be. But why don't we wait for the details to come out about this deal before we start bashing it, just an idea That isn't true. Our exposure didn't double. It went down by 7. Last year our contract with ESPN gave us 32 games on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or ESPN3. link The year before our contract with ESPN gave us 39 games on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or ESPN3. link As you pointed out, ESPN lost the Big East last year. They were on Foxsports1 last season. Even with the loss of the Big East, ESPN gave us 7 less games on their networks. I don't anticipate a better contract this year. As Big D pointed out in his original post in this thread, the HL should have looked to move to Foxsports1. They only really have the Big East. You would think they would be motivated to add other conferences and would probably offer us more games on TV and a paycheck, something ESPN has been unwilling to do.
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Post by raiders41 on May 5, 2014 20:13:51 GMT -5
The Big East was also still on ESPN. The Horizon League should and probably will be getting a much better deal than what they have in the past with less conferences to compete with for ESPN airtime. As far as I am concerned I haven't heard of any new conferences signing with ESPN. If you look at this season and the previous you'll see that the amount of games that we had on an ESPN channel doubled. Staying on ESPN is the best option unless there is a network that is going to offer us a bigger contract which I don't think there would be. But why don't we wait for the details to come out about this deal before we start bashing it, just an idea That isn't true. Our exposure didn't double. It went down by 7. Last year our contract with ESPN gave us 32 games on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or ESPN3. link The year before our contract with ESPN gave us 39 games on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or ESPN3. link As you pointed out, ESPN lost the Big East last year. They were on Foxsports1 last season. Even with the loss of the Big East, ESPN gave us 7 less games on their networks. I don't anticipate a better contract this year. As Big D pointed out in his original post in this thread, the HL should have looked to move to Foxsports1. They only really have the Big East. You would think they would be motivated to add other conferences and would probably offer us more games on TV and a paycheck, something ESPN has been unwilling to do. My post was based on Wright State's schedule, but moving past that. But getting back to the main subject here. We would not get a better deal with Fox Sports 1, there is no shot. Reason 1 being that if you look through their broadcast schedule from last year on Saturdays were booked with games all day so we wouldn't get any Saturday games, from the time our conference schedule started until the end of our tournament there are 15 nights without basketball on and 2 more of those nights in late February have NASCAR's Budweiser Duels on, now down to 13 nights that are open. So unless we're playing games at 10:00 we're not going to get on during those other nights. Reason 2 is that Fox Sports 1 was created to challenge ESPN's supremacy in sports broadcasting. Look at what they are going to be adding next year to their lineup. Nascar Sprint and Nationwide Series which the Nationwide Series is only being broadcast on ESPN right now. FS1 will be getting a little under half of the races next year for the Nationwide Series. And then they have a number of soccer leagues that they are adding as well which they will be splitting time with ESPN. The moves that they are currently making are going to have huge impact on ESPN. If FS1 would take the Horizon League away do you think that would really hurt ESPN, not really they would probably just broadcast more American Athletic Conference games which would bring in more viewership than the HL.
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Post by Big D on May 5, 2014 20:57:00 GMT -5
But getting back to the main subject here. We would not get a better deal with Fox Sports 1, there is no shot. That's the kind of attitude that has kept us under ESPN's thumb the last 25 years. Things won't ever change unless you challenge the status quo. FoxSports1 is trying to get out of the racing business. The channel used to be the velocity or speed network (I cannot remember which) but it wasn't profitable. I checked the channel often last season during the week. They had on motor cross racing more during the average week than any redneck could consume. They want to become a major challenge to ESPN as an all sports network. I think they would love to sign up the HL. We might have to change some of the days we traditionally play games on to get more airtime but we shouldn't have a problem with that. The HL wants a Thurs/Sat schedule for our student athletes so they don't miss much class time. We often schedule Fri/Sun games to accommodate ESPN now. If we can get more games and a paycheck from Foxsports1 I think it would be worth moving game days around. At the very least, negotiating with Foxsports1, gives us leverage for a better deal with ESPN. Currently, ESPN is going to give us whatever they want to give us and we are going to take it because we have nothing to negotiate with. If we have another offer from Foxsports1, we now have some leverage to negotiate with.
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Post by wsutommygun on May 5, 2014 21:26:03 GMT -5
I think FoxSports1 was Speed and FoxSports2 was Fuel. Not sure what Fox will do with FoxSports2 but, I haven't paid much attention so far.
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Post by mrose on May 5, 2014 22:41:31 GMT -5
With ESPN it's sort of the chicken and egg thing--which comes first.
With losing the Big East they need to back fill some time slots, but they need quality inventory. Last year only 3 ooc Horizon League home games were televised by ESPN and one of those games (Michigan State vs. Oakland) wasn't a true home game as it was played in the Palace of Auburn Hills.
It's certainly easier said than done, but if the HL wants more TV exposure on ESPN the league needs to land some quality opponents for home games for ESPN to televise. ESPN pretty much can have the pick of the litter, so the HL better do something to attract ESPN's attention.
FOX Sports 1, on the other hand, appears hungry for basketball inventory. Heck, last year they televised Manchester at Butler. Yep, a D III school was on national TV playing at Butler. That particular game was one of the lowest rated, perhaps the lowest rated, TV games of the entire year that was broadcast nationally on the cable sports channels (ESPN, ESPN 2, ESPN U, Fox Sports 1, CBS Sports Network, and NBCSN). Yet, to get off the ground Fox Sports is paying each member of the Big East $2 Million/year for their broadcast rights.
Knowing that, certainly the HL has approached FS1 about a contract, right?
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Post by raiders41 on May 5, 2014 23:07:15 GMT -5
But getting back to the main subject here. We would not get a better deal with Fox Sports 1, there is no shot. That's the kind of attitude that has kept us under ESPN's thumb the last 25 years. Things won't ever change unless you challenge the status quo. FoxSports1 is trying to get out of the racing business. The channel used to be the velocity or speed network (I cannot remember which) but it wasn't profitable. I checked the channel often last season during the week. They had on motor cross racing more during the average week than any redneck could consume. They want to become a major challenge to ESPN as an all sports network. I think they would love to sign up the HL. We might have to change some of the days we traditionally play games on to get more airtime but we shouldn't have a problem with that. The HL wants a Thurs/Sat schedule for our student athletes so they don't miss much class time. We often schedule Fri/Sun games to accommodate ESPN now. If we can get more games and a paycheck from Foxsports1 I think it would be worth moving game days around. At the very least, negotiating with Foxsports1, gives us leverage for a better deal with ESPN. Currently, ESPN is going to give us whatever they want to give us and we are going to take it because we have nothing to negotiate with. If we have another offer from Foxsports1, we now have some leverage to negotiate with. "FoxSports1 is trying to get out of the racing business."WrongThat explains the long contract the Fox just signed with NASCAR through 2024. MotoGP signed a 2 year extension last year, they have a 15 year relationship with Fox. Field Motor Sports which includes Monster Energy AMA supercross, an FIM World Championship, Monster Jam, AMSOIL Arenacross and the Monster Energy Cup signed a 5 year deal which just began in January. Doesn't really look like they're trying to get out of the racing business. msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/sprint-cup-fox-sports-broadcast-rights-nationwide-2015-to-2024-in-extended-expanded-agreement-080113ultimatemotorcycling.com/motogp-signs-multiyear-deal-with-fox-sports/msn.foxsports.com/speed/supercross/sx-feld-motor-sports-and-fox-sports-announce-five-year-agreement/"The channel used to be the velocity or speed network, but it wasn't profitable."It was SPEED and wrong againThe channel was profitable, the problem was the Fox would rather be making "billions instead of millions" blog.caranddriver.com/did-the-speed-channel-have-to-die-we-examine-the-economics/"We often schedule Fri/Sun games to accommodate ESPN now."Partially wrongLooking through the schedules that Class of '79 posted above, we had 71 games scheduled on an ESPN channel. The Horizon League had more Saturday games than any other 2 days combined. Friday was the 2nd most scheduled for ESPN broadcasts. But as for Sunday, there was only one Horizon League ESPN game that I could find and that games was on ESPN3. So when it comes to our student athletes, I think ESPN is doing a fine job considering over 70% of HL ESPN games are on the weekend.
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Post by Big D on May 6, 2014 7:22:32 GMT -5
Foxsports1 is trying to get out of the racing business. They signed the new contract you listed above BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ENOUGH INVENTORY IN OTHER MAJOR SPORTS TO FILL THEIR AIR TIME. That is the whole reason I said we should be trying to get our foot in the door with them now while they are looking for more inventory. It's all semantics. I said the SPEED channel wasn't profitable for Fox. Fox is a multibillion dollar company. Having a network only make millions is saying that they weren't profitable. I'm sure you make a decent living. If you had a lemonade stand in your front yard and you were making 20 bucks a weekend selling lemonade I would say that isn't a profitable venture either even though you were making money. "We often schedule Fri/Sun games to accommodate ESPN now."Partially wrongLooking through the schedules that Class of '79 posted above, we had 71 games scheduled on an ESPN channel. The Horizon League had more Saturday games than any other 2 days combined. Friday was the 2nd most scheduled for ESPN broadcasts. But as for Sunday, there was only one Horizon League ESPN game that I could find and that games was on ESPN3. So when it comes to our student athletes, I think ESPN is doing a fine job considering over 70% of HL ESPN games are on the weekend. What the hell is your point? I said we changed dates of games to accommodate ESPN. We want a Thur/Sat schedule. Throughout conference play, 4 teams had to schedule Fri/Sun games so that we could have our Friday night HL game of the week on the ESPN network. Even though only 2 of those teams were playing on Friday night, 2 other teams had to play on Friday too so that those 4 teams would be able to swop and play on Sunday. We also scheduled a game at 10 PM to accommodate ESPN. The whole point of the comment was that we changed some of our games from Thurs/Sat to Fri/Sun to accommodate ESPN. There is no reason we wouldn't do the same for Foxsports1.
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Post by wsutommygun on May 6, 2014 7:51:00 GMT -5
If Fox took over something called Speed, Fuel, Velocity or whatever, seems like if the emphasis was to remain with racing, why change to Fox Sports 1 and 2? I did watch something on FS2 yesterday but it was a rerun of Mike Francesa ( radio sports talk that is simulcast on tv that had been on FS1 earlier ).
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Post by raiders41 on May 6, 2014 11:24:29 GMT -5
If Fox took over something called Speed, Fuel, Velocity or whatever, seems like if the emphasis was to remain with racing, why change to Fox Sports 1 and 2? I did watch something on FS2 yesterday but it was a rerun of Mike Francesa ( radio sports talk that is simulcast on tv that had been on FS1 earlier ). Fox took over the SPEED channel in 2001 after Fox signed a deal with NASCAR
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Post by raiders41 on May 6, 2014 11:27:41 GMT -5
Foxsports1 is trying to get out of the racing business. They signed the new contract you listed above BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ENOUGH INVENTORY IN OTHER MAJOR SPORTS TO FILL THEIR AIR TIME. That is the whole reason I said we should be trying to get our foot in the door with them now while they are looking for more inventory. It's all semantics. I said the SPEED channel wasn't profitable for Fox. Fox is a multibillion dollar company. Having a network only make millions is saying that they weren't profitable. I'm sure you make a decent living. If you had a lemonade stand in your front yard and you were making 20 bucks a weekend selling lemonade I would say that isn't a profitable venture either even though you were making money. "We often schedule Fri/Sun games to accommodate ESPN now."Partially wrongLooking through the schedules that Class of '79 posted above, we had 71 games scheduled on an ESPN channel. The Horizon League had more Saturday games than any other 2 days combined. Friday was the 2nd most scheduled for ESPN broadcasts. But as for Sunday, there was only one Horizon League ESPN game that I could find and that games was on ESPN3. So when it comes to our student athletes, I think ESPN is doing a fine job considering over 70% of HL ESPN games are on the weekend. What the hell is your point? I said we changed dates of games to accommodate ESPN. We want a Thur/Sat schedule. Throughout conference play, 4 teams had to schedule Fri/Sun games so that we could have our Friday night HL game of the week on the ESPN network. Even though only 2 of those teams were playing on Friday night, 2 other teams had to play on Friday too so that those 4 teams would be able to swop and play on Sunday. We also scheduled a game at 10 PM to accommodate ESPN. The whole point of the comment was that we changed some of our games from Thurs/Sat to Fri/Sun to accommodate ESPN. There is no reason we wouldn't do the same for Foxsports1. I don’t know of too many lemonade stands that have lasted 12 years. And the reason Fox bought SPEED in 2001 was because of their contract that they just signed with NASCAR to accommodate more races which includes 3 different series. Sprint, Nationwide, and Camping World. From there they began to add other racing series and even created SPEED 2 so that they could broadcast even more races. The reason SPEED was shut down was because the channel wasn’t 24/7 live broadcasting. I’m guessing you’re not too familiar with what was on SPEED most of the time. During the days it was car auctions and reality car shows. Fox saw an opportunity to make even more money by adding more sports to the channel. Going into the second year of existence FS1 is already expanding their coverage of NASCAR series, signing 5 year deals with Feld Motorsports is not filling. There is just as much racing on FS1 now as there was on SPEED, Fox is just cutting out the programs that wasn't really doing anything productive and replacing them with more sports. And as for the days that the Horizon League would be broadcast on, based on last year’s schedule FS1 was booked with Big East games on Thursdays and Saturdays. So the days that we would get wouldn't be any different from what they are now. At least now we are getting a good amount of Saturday night games. So my point is that we would be playing either more Friday-Sunday games or we would be playing more 10:00 games. The Horizon League be working more around FS1’s schedule then they ever have with ESPN.
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Post by mrose on May 6, 2014 12:36:38 GMT -5
Fox made their intentions known last year when rebranding the Speed Channel to Fox Sports 1 they would remain heavily involved in the broadcasting of motorsports. For instance, once the switch was turned on Fox Sports 1 made NASCAR a priority, increasing its coverage of Sprint Cup, the Nationwide Series and the Camping World Truck Series while featuring NASCAR heavily in its promotion of the new network.
Around the time of the launch of FS1 FOX announced additional NASCAR coverage to begin in 2015 and as '41 has stated even more auto racing programs will be added for future years.
This isn't because they don't have enough D I basketball inventory. It's because these are highly viewed shows and very profitable--especially when compared to college hoops. What they are trying to do with FS1 is to broaden its scope from its roots with SPEED by adding other watched and followed sports. In essence, to make it the Americana of Sports Channels.
From a personal up-close point view, several years ago I worked with a consumer product start-up company backed by Goldman Sachs. A big part of the marketing campaign was to sponsor a car in NASCAR--obviously this needed GS's stamp of approval. It was a slam dunk. When looking at the data NASCAR fans/viewers are the most loyal and supportive of brands than any sports fan (football, baseball, etc.), hands down. If they can't be at the track they make it a point to watch on TV. There are literally tens of millions (75m +) of them and just north of 40% of them are women. That's a dream for advertisers! FOX knows this and I'm sure their $ per spot reflects that too. Currently a typical motor sport show on FS1 has between 1 and 2 million viewers.
Now, compare that to the first year of basketball viewership on FS1. Of the 942 games aired on all sports networks, FS1 and Fox Sports 2 combined to air the ten least-viewed games of the season, each of which earned fewer than 10,000 viewers.
ESPN, on the other hand, aired four of the five most-viewed games, including the top college basketball game of the season on any network--Duke/Syracuse the day before the Super Bowl (4.7M).
For comparison, our games had 64k viewers (G'town, FS1), at Valpo 107k (ESPNU) Green Bay at home 62K (ESPNU), at Green Bay 144K (ESPN 2), Cleveland State at home 159k (ESPN2), Detroit at home 21k (ESPNU), and the Championship final with 679K. For reference, the most viewed regular season game on FS1 was Michigan State at Georgetown with 539K viewers. For what it’s worth, below my commentary is a table of viewership by game the dates Wright State played.
Now, things will probably change, and as Big D said, the HL and Wright State need to challenge both ESPN and FS1 for more air time and to be paid competitively for the broadcast rights.
FS1 can't show NASCAR during the winter as it's a seasonal sport, but they can show more basketball--good basketball. Basically, like any sports network they need to fill their slots with original programming that will attract "some" viewers.
FS1 has made it clear, they're going to broadcast Big 12 and PAC 12 Football and basketball, C-USA Football, and Big East Basketball. Unfortunately, for them, this year their BE conference games only averaged 95k viewers/game. That’s slightly less than WSU’s average of 98k + for regular season conference games on the ESPN networks.
For FOX that's unsustainable. Not only is their per game viewership too low they are also low on total inventory. That's where the HL has to present a solution (for a fee) to FS1's problem.
So, what’s the solution for FOX? Not that it's a strategy, but they can make the EXCUSE that basketball fans couldn't find the FS1 channel as it's "hidden" down the lineup of sports channels with many providers and FOX can HOPE the fans of St. John's, X, Seton Hall, et. al, find the channel next year. After all, they’re in nearly 90 million homes! ESPN is in just under 100 million homes. So, quite a discrepancy in viewership considering…
Considering they're paying out tens of millions of dollars/year I doubt the “excuse/hope” above is not an option--unless somebody desperately wants a pink slip. Though, publicly, they claim they are satisfied with the first year’s results.
So, what’s next? A possible option is to use their weight and leverage forcing the Big East to expand sooner than the conference would like. This would instantly give FS1 more inventory. FOX may "insist" upon large TV markets or of programs that have loyal, dedicated, and smart fans--one's that can use the remote to find the channel.
Another option might be to add another conference into their fold--one that has institutions in large media markets. Hmm. Wonder where they could go for that?
As a side note, I mentioned in an earlier comment that FOX is paying Big East Members $2 million annually. I was wrong. Double that figure. It’s closer to $4 MILLION annually—per institution. It is believed if the Big East were to expand to 12 members FOX would increase the total value of the contract so as the 10 original members wouldn’t have to take a financial hair cut.
The HL solution? Save FOX some money, so they don’t have to shell out an additional $8 million for only 2 additional BE members. Save them $2 million annually, ask for $6m/year for the entire conference (10 members—I’m sure Belmont will jump at the $600k) with the option to expand to 12 for $7.2m, and FOX can DOUBLE their inventory with a conference in the heart of college basketball land. At this point, the money is inconsequential to FOX, but doubling the inventory in a part of the country with large metropolitan markets, is college basketball crazy, and historically has had high (relative) college basketball TV ratings would be a good investment, IMO.
We all know FOX has made some head-scratching investments at the time they were made. When they came out and started the 4th over-the-air network most pundits said the market was already saturated and too small for a fourth network and they couldn’t compete with the already entrenched big boys at ABC, CBS, and NBC. FOX proved those people wrong.
When FOX dwarfed NBC’s bid to broadcast NFL games, people said they were crazy. Maybe so, but at the end of the day it worked out very well for FOX and hurt NBC.
When FOX started up a 24 hour cable news network people laughed and said it could never compete with CNN or CNN Headline News. Now they’re right about no competition between CNN and FOX, but most people got it backwards…FOX has dominated them for years.
Now FOX wants to be the Americana of sports networks on their FS1 and FS2 channels.
They’re partners with the Big 10 Network and just this week announced a multi-year opening season challenge between the BE and B1G with FS1 having the broadcast rights for BE home games. That’ll certainly motivate people in Chicago and across the country to locate FS1 on their TV.
This might be a horse the HL wants to hitch its wagon to…
Rtg. Vwrs. Game Time Net
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 0.1 113K FSU at UCF 7:00 PM ESPNEWS 0.0 64K Wright St. at Georgetown 7:00 PM FS1 0.0 5K Southern Miss at DePaul 9:16 PM FS2 0.0 2K Kent St. at Seton Hall 7:00 PM FS2
Friday, January 10, 2014 0.1 107K Wright St. at Valparaiso 9:00 PM ESPNU 0.1 89K Radford at High Point 7:00 PM ESPNU
Friday, January 17, 2014 0.0 62K Green Bay at Wright St. 7:00 PM ESPNU 0.0 53K Canisuis at Iowa 9:00 PM ESPNU
Saturday, February 01, 2014 2.9 4.745M Duke at Syracuse 6:26 PM ESPN 1.3 1.924M Kansas at Texas 4:11 PM ESPN 1.3 1.842M Kentucky at Missouri 1:00 PM CBS 1.2 1.716M Ohio St. at Wisconsin 12:00 PM ESPN 0.7 900K Baylor at Okla. St. 2:00 PM ESPN 0.3 552K NC State at UNC 1:11 PM ESPN2 0.4 539K Georgetown vs. Michigan St. 3:15 PM FS1 0.2 461K Tennessee at Alabama 9:00 PM ESPN2 0.3 386K Clemson at Florida St. 3:10 PM ESPN2 0.2 316K St. Mary’s at BYU 11:00 PM ESPN2 0.2 293K Evansville at Wichita St. 3:18 PM ESPNU 0.2 282K Arkansas at LSU 5:08 PM ESPNU 0.2 250K UCF at Louisville 9:00 PM ESPNU 0.1 190K Richmond at VCU 11:00 AM ESPN2 0.1 144K Wright St. at Green Bay 7:00 PM ESPN2 0.1 142K Colorado St. at San Diego St. 7:00 PM ESPNU 0.1 92K Marquette at St. John’s 12:30 PM FS1 0.0 65K George Wash. at Dayton 12:30 PM NBCSN 0.0 60K Toledo at Ohio 1:00 PM ESPNU 0.0 58K Drexel at Towson 4:49 PM NBCSN 0.0 41K George Mason at Saint Louis 2:30 PM NBCSN 0.0 35K Penn at Harvard 9:31 PM NBCSN 0.0 32K Coastal Carolina at Campbell 11:00 AM ESPNU 0.0 28K UC Irvine at Cal Poly 11:14 PM ESPNU 0.0 24K Houston at Rutgers 4:30 PM ESPNEWS
Saturday, February 08, 2014 1.1 1.921M Michigan at Iowa 2:00 PM ESPN 1.0 1.650M West Virginia at Kansas 4:00 PM ESPN 0.9 1.313M Duke at Boston Coll. 6:19 PM ESPN 0.8 1.240M Alabama at Florida 12:00 PM ESPN 0.7 1.083M Butler at Georgetown 1:00 PM CBS 0.5 794K Gonzaga at Memphis 9:00 PM ESPN 0.3 553K Wichita St. at Northern Iowa 9:00 PM ESPN2 0.2 363K Baylor at Oklahoma 7:00 PM ESPN2 0.2 286K Florida St. at Maryland 3:14 PM ESPN2 0.1 176K Okla. St. at Texas Tech 9:51 PM ESPNU 0.1 175K Oregon at Arizona St. 5:11 PM FS1 0.1 168K Saint Louis at La Salle 5:10 PM ESPN2 0.1 159K Cleveland St. at Wright St. 1:00 PM ESPN2 0.1 144K Nebraska at Northwestern 1:14 PM ESPNU 0.1 125K Cincinnati at SMU 7:30 PM ESPNU 0.0 68K Morehead St. at Eastern Kentucky 11:00 AM ESPNU 0.0 68K South Carolina at Tennessee 3:00 PM ESPNU 0.0 56K Providence at Xavier 3:00 PM FS1 0.0 55K Rutgers at USF 8:00 PM ESPNEWS
Friday, February 21, 2014 0.2 206K VCU at UMass 7:00 PM ESPN2 0.0 35K Iona at Rider 8:00 PM ESPNU 0.0 32K Mercer at Florida Gulf Coast 6:00 PM ESPNU 0.0 21K Detroit at Wright St. 10:11 PM ESPNU
Tuesday, March 11, 2014 0.7 1.045M Gonzaga vs. BYU 9:00 PM ESPN WCC Champ. 0.5 679K Milwaukee at Wright St. 7:00 PM ESPN Horizon Champ. 0.3 357K N. Dakota St. vs. IPFW 9:00 PM ESPN2 Summit Champ. 0.2 260K Mount St. Mary’s at Robert Morris 7:00 PM ESPN2 NEC Champ.
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Post by Big D on Sept 9, 2014 19:31:50 GMT -5
It looks like the HL is sticking with ESPN. linkI doubt LeCrone even looked at other options to try to get some leverage against ESPN. I'm sure when they announce the new contract we will have the same basic contract. The worst thing is that Bill Potter is touting our 25 yr relationship with ESPN like it is a good thing in the above link. What an idiot. We have been giving away our most valuable commodity to ESPN for free for 25 years and he is celebrating it. It shows you exactly what is wrong with the HL. Butler went to the Big East where their league negotiated a contract with Foxsport1 where each member of that league gets 3 million a year for their broadcast rights. I am well aware that the HL isn't on the same page as the Big East, but there is no way I am going to believe that the value of our broadcast rights are worth nothing. ESPN would not be broadcasting our games if they were not making money on them. A real commissioner would have got a paycheck from ESPN for our broadcast rights or he would have shopped us to another network. LeCrone is a joke. The HL announced it's ESPN line up today and it is even a bigger joke now than when you posted this back in May. Not only are we not getting a paycheck by staying with ESPN, the number of games they are broadcasting has gone way down. Last year, the HL had 32 games on one of the ESPN channels. This year we have a pathetic 19 games. Even worse for Wright State, we didn't get a single game. This is BS! www.horizonleague.org/blog/hlmbb-schedule-released
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