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Post by Black PantherU on Oct 6, 2014 19:34:30 GMT -5
That's false, we self-reported that secondary violation. I invite you to call Steve Lautz, our former compliance guy and now in compliance at Auburn, and ask him yourself.
Also, you don't need to tell me Bruce Pearl is a schmuck. I've been unpopular at times at UWM for my willingness to say so.
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Post by Black PantherU on Oct 6, 2014 19:35:26 GMT -5
And Pearl didn't get kicked out for breaking the rule, he got kicked out for lying about it to the NCAA. I can understand if you don't make the distinction, since I don't act like there is.
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Post by Tipp City Raider on Oct 6, 2014 19:36:24 GMT -5
I don't get the whole blog. I understand if you wanted to criticize our athletic depart last year when we took Sledge back on the team. Many of our own fans were upset about that. I don't see why you felt the need to take a shot at our athletic department now. They finally did the right thing and got rid of him.
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Post by Big D on Oct 6, 2014 19:39:30 GMT -5
That's false, we self-reported that secondary violation. I invite you to call Steve Lautz, our former compliance guy and now in compliance at Auburn, and ask him yourself. Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards I know you self reported it to the NCAA. What you didn't do was release that information to the general public or the media. As you put it, UWM just "swept it under the rug" and hoped no one noticed.
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Post by Black PantherU on Oct 6, 2014 19:50:47 GMT -5
That's false, we self-reported that secondary violation. I invite you to call Steve Lautz, our former compliance guy and now in compliance at Auburn, and ask him yourself. Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards I know you self reported it to the NCAA. What you didn't do was release that information to the general public or the media. As you put it, UWM just "swept it under the rug" and hoped no one noticed. Yeah, the public is really adamant about universities being transparent about hot dogs. NCAA violations are searchable. Added: I know the bridge you're trying to make here, which is kind of sad but I get it. NCAA secondary violations are not crimes, they're little, mostly stupid rules made up by the NCAA for parity when really all they do is hurt recruits.
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Post by Black PantherU on Oct 6, 2014 19:53:14 GMT -5
I don't get the whole blog. I understand if you wanted to criticize our athletic depart last year when we took Sledge back on the team. Many of our own fans were upset about that. I don't see why you felt the need to take a shot at our athletic department now. They finally did the right thing and got rid of him. They gave a third chance to a guy who did 19 days for endangering his child and had charges of domestic violence dropped in a plea deal. I don't understand what's not to "get" - you don't understand why it's relevant? 'Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me thrice, we kick you out of school.'
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Post by wsumandy on Oct 6, 2014 20:08:28 GMT -5
You guys do realize that Bob Grant along with our university leaders signed a letter of support for Sledge trying to get the judge to let him off the hook? Why do you go to such lengths to get a guy out of jail and then punish him once again?
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Post by Big D on Oct 6, 2014 20:18:19 GMT -5
I know you self reported it to the NCAA. What you didn't do was release that information to the general public or the media. As you put it, UWM just "swept it under the rug" and hoped no one noticed. Yeah, the public is really adamant about universities being transparent about hot dogs. NCAA violations are searchable. Added: I know the bridge you're trying to make here, which is kind of sad but I get it. NCAA secondary violations are not crimes, they're little, mostly stupid rules made up by the NCAA for parity when really all they do is hurt recruits. WSU dismissed a player for breaking an academic rule that they are not allowed to comment on because of student privacy laws. You claim they are sweeping it under the rug by not commenting on it further even though they are not allowed. Pearl got busted for an NCAA recruiting violation. Yeah NCAA rules violations are searchable, but UWM didn't comment on it at all hoping no one would find out that it happened. That is sweeping it under the rug. How about the issues between your former AD Koonce and your soccer program. I sure in the heck don't remember any of those issues being released to the media. I guess that doesn't qualify as sweeping it under the rug either?
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Post by Big D on Oct 6, 2014 20:21:58 GMT -5
You guys do realize that Bob Grant along with our university leaders signed a letter of support for Sledge trying to get the judge to let him off the hook? Why do you go to such lengths to get a guy out of jail and then punish him once again? Grant and President Hopkins gave him one last chance to straighten out his life, if not for himself, than for his kid. They wanted to give him a chance to get his degree and make something of his life. It was his last chance and left no room for error. Sledge failed to live up to his end of the bargain and was dismissed from the team. WSU issued a release saying everything they could legally on the matter.
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Post by Black PantherU on Oct 6, 2014 20:25:46 GMT -5
Yeah, the public is really adamant about universities being transparent about hot dogs. NCAA violations are searchable. Added: I know the bridge you're trying to make here, which is kind of sad but I get it. NCAA secondary violations are not crimes, they're little, mostly stupid rules made up by the NCAA for parity when really all they do is hurt recruits. WSU dismissed a player for breaking an academic rule that they are not allowed to comment on because of student privacy laws. You claim they are sweeping it under the rug by not commenting on it further even though they are not allowed. Pearl got busted for an NCAA recruiting violation. Yeah NCAA rules violations are searchable, but UWM didn't comment on it at all hoping no one would find out that it happened. That is sweeping it under the rug. How about the issues between your former AD Koonce and your soccer program. I sure in the heck don't remember any of those issues being released to the media. I guess that doesn't qualify as sweeping it under the rug either? Uh oh, now your lack of research gets you in trouble. The AD was Rick Costello, and it became public when the student-athletes and their volunteer assistant coach went public in local media - at my urging. Costello was going to let the soccer coach stay on after the students came to him, so their volunteer assistant - who I was friends with from college - came to me, and I told him to go to the media - you know, journalists The next night, the local NBC and CBS affiliates had interviews. The coach was gone within a week, and the AD was gone shortly thereafter.
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Post by Black PantherU on Oct 6, 2014 20:26:39 GMT -5
You guys do realize that Bob Grant along with our university leaders signed a letter of support for Sledge trying to get the judge to let him off the hook? Why do you go to such lengths to get a guy out of jail and then punish him once again? Grant and President Hopkins gave him one last chance to straighten out his life, if not for himself, than for his kid. They wanted to give him a chance to get his degree and make something of his life. It was his last chance and left no room for error. Sledge failed to live up to his end of the bargain and was dismissed from the team. WSU issued a release saying everything they could legally on the matter. They could say that "due to NCAA rules" or "due to federal law" "we are unable to comment further."
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Post by Retired Coach on Oct 6, 2014 20:33:01 GMT -5
As for this kerfuffle with Big D today: I also don't claim to be a journalist, even though I've broken 90% of hoops news out of UWM in the past 8 years, as well as things like Oakland joining the conference etc. I seem to remember a report by you that said Oakland was joining the HL with Belmont and Evansville. I also remember a report by you claiming UIC was headed to the MVC. Yeah, you break a lot of stories. Too bad they are mostly figments of your imagination.
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Post by Big D on Oct 6, 2014 20:44:51 GMT -5
Grant and President Hopkins gave him one last chance to straighten out his life, if not for himself, than for his kid. They wanted to give him a chance to get his degree and make something of his life. It was his last chance and left no room for error. Sledge failed to live up to his end of the bargain and was dismissed from the team. WSU issued a release saying everything they could legally on the matter. They could say that "due to NCAA rules" or "due to federal law" "we are unable to comment further." And if you contacted WSU like I have said many times in this discussion they would have explained that to you. You could have also contacted Sledge himself if you wanted the real story. You didn't do any research at all. You just took shots at a lot of people in our athletic department based on your uninformed opinion. I have said my part and I am done with this debate.
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Post by Black PantherU on Oct 7, 2014 15:30:34 GMT -5
As for this kerfuffle with Big D today: I also don't claim to be a journalist, even though I've broken 90% of hoops news out of UWM in the past 8 years, as well as things like Oakland joining the conference etc. I seem to remember a report by you that said Oakland was joining the HL with Belmont and Evansville. I also remember a report by you claiming UIC was headed to the MVC. Yeah, you break a lot of stories. Too bad they are mostly figments of your imagination. That wasn't a story, that was a tweet, which wasn't presented as anything besides what people around were thinking. As for UIC, that I had two stone cold locks for sources, one employee and one recent employee at UIC, both who had it from a higher up that it was all but signed. You also have to jump at Rob Demovsky, then of the GB Press Gazette and now of ESPN, for reporting the same thing. Between the two of us we had four sources saying the same thing.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Oct 7, 2014 15:41:46 GMT -5
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