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Post by Wolf on Dec 7, 2014 21:05:42 GMT -5
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Post by Sixth Man on Dec 7, 2014 21:09:13 GMT -5
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Post by wolf41 on Dec 8, 2014 16:59:09 GMT -5
It has seemed odd this season with long droughts of WSU home games for both the men and women. So I checked the original schedules and found that the men only had 5 OOC games scheduled for the home court out of 14 games, excluding the exhibition game on Nov. 5. The women, surprisingly, also had only 5 home games scheduled, with 9 OOC games, excluding the Ashland exhibition game. With these 14 games I would expect us to always try to play a minimum of 7 home games for the sake of raking in more ticket sales cash. If we are playing 2 or 3 D-II games I'd expect us to have even more home games. Afterall, we are averaging over 4,000 per home game this season to date, while on the road the average gate is in the low hundreds, around 400 I think. We should also note that our largest gate was when we played a solid opponent in Belmont. That gate was over 7,000. There seems to be some VERY obvious conclusions that could be drawn here, so I won't dwell on that subject matter.
But if we are hurting for money for athletics, it would seem that we should be beefing up our home schedule and/or try to play more games at the Big 10, MVC, Atlantic 10, Atlantic Coast, Big East, or other conferences for cash. Maybe I missed out on some courses when working on my MBA, but those would be my conclusions
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Post by Dr J on Dec 8, 2014 18:34:10 GMT -5
Wolf, that is easy to say but may be difficult to attain. First, scheduling those teams can depend on relationships and secondly, it can depend on what the coach has the team playing. BD would be more likely to run a slow down offense. They usually build their programs on a faster paced and more exciting game. Therefore, it would be a problem with their fans. College athletics are a product that needs to be appealing to the consumers, fans.
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Post by jumbojimbo on Dec 8, 2014 18:59:23 GMT -5
Slow offense? You guys need to watch the games, they are available on video.
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Post by Bomber on Dec 8, 2014 19:25:11 GMT -5
Slow offense? You guys need to watch the games, they are available on video. Dr. J would have been correct last year when we were 271st in the country in scoring offense. He isn't correct this year. We are currently 159th which is in the top half of college basketball. We had a few low scoring games on the road when we struggled to make shots but that is not indicative of the way we have tried to play this year.
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Post by Dr J on Dec 8, 2014 20:29:55 GMT -5
We aren't so far and hope that doesn't change. The remarks are based on what the opposing coaches have seen in the past. This years team plays a more exciting game. I still say the best defense is to get an offensive rebound. Again how BD plays his half court offense won't lead to many offensive rebounds. We have 4 or 5 people around the perimeter. I would love to see more of Joe T back door cuts and runs to the hoop for alley oop passes and dunks. That would really shake up the HL coaches to see that from a BD team.
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Post by jumbojimbo on Dec 8, 2014 20:36:30 GMT -5
I guess I just don't get it, why do you always have to make it personal when you discuss the team? Why is it always a veiled personal attack on BD instead of just stating your point? Bad enough when your comment isn't even true for this year, but then you have to go down the personal road to justify your invalid argument.
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Post by Fastbreak on Dec 8, 2014 21:32:02 GMT -5
Dr. J would have been correct last year when we were 271st in the country in scoring offense. He isn't correct this year. We are currently 159th which is in the top half of college basketball. We had a few low scoring games on the road when we struggled to make shots but that is not indicative of the way we have tried to play this year. Those stats are a bit misleading. We went from 271st to 156th this year in scoring but we really aren't scoring much more than last year. We are averaging 69.6 points per game, but that is only a little over a bucket a game more than last year's average of 67.2. The real difference between last year and this year is the decline in our defense. We gave up 62.1 points per game last year (good for 21st in the country). This year we are giving up 67.3 points per game (194 in the country). That isn't entirely surprising considering all of the new faces on our roster. The part of our defense I like the least is our guards getting taken off the dribble so easily and opposing teams getting easy buckets in the paint and our bigs getting into foul trouble trying to play help defense. I don't think we can play 2 of the following guards together: Reggie, Chrishawn, or Mark Howell. They are all undersized and get pushed around too easily against teams with bigger guards and having 2 of them on the court at the same time is a recipe for disaster.
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Post by Retired Coach on Dec 8, 2014 22:50:14 GMT -5
Belmont has gone 7-0 since they played us to open the season. They play Evansville this Tuesday before they play us Thursday. You can watch the Evansville game on the OVC network: www.ovcdigitalnetwork.com/watch/?Live=2070 I hope Evansville gives them a physical game that goes into 3 OTs.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Dec 9, 2014 14:57:01 GMT -5
Hopkins will play. S. Davis questionable.
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Post by Raider3G on Dec 9, 2014 18:22:07 GMT -5
It was already going to be a tight game with S. Davis. If he doesn't play, and knowing Kendall won't, it would be very hard for us to win this one. With S. Davis, even if he just contributes against Bradds defensively, I think we win because we are a) a more athletic team, and b) We have JT back, which gives our offense a dimension it did not have that night. Also Benzinger has continued to improve, and Mitchell and R. Davis will have more confidence than they did then.
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Post by uptempo on Dec 10, 2014 0:27:45 GMT -5
It has seemed odd this season with long droughts of WSU home games for both the men and women. So I checked the original schedules and found that the men only had 5 OOC games scheduled for the home court out of 14 games, excluding the exhibition game on Nov. 5. The women, surprisingly, also had only 5 home games scheduled, with 9 OOC games, excluding the Ashland exhibition game. With these 14 games I would expect us to always try to play a minimum of 7 home games for the sake of raking in more ticket sales cash. If we are playing 2 or 3 D-II games I'd expect us to have even more home games. Afterall, we are averaging over 4,000 per home game this season to date, while on the road the average gate is in the low hundreds, around 400 I think. We should also note that our largest gate was when we played a solid opponent in Belmont. That gate was over 7,000. There seems to be some VERY obvious conclusions that could be drawn here, so I won't dwell on that subject matter. But if we are hurting for money for athletics, it would seem that we should be beefing up our home schedule and/or try to play more games at the Big 10, MVC, Atlantic 10, Atlantic Coast, Big East, or other conferences for cash. Maybe I missed out on some courses when working on my MBA, but those would be my conclusions Oakland is playing their next five games on the road against schools from the power conferences, including Clemson. The only big name we have this year is Ohio State. Why can Oakland schedule these games and WSU does not. I think it would be a plus in recruitment playing a bunch of big name schools every year vs WSU playing a bunch of games against no name schools and DII teams. The DII games are stupid, they are considered an exhibition game for the small schools and the game does not count in your RPI for the Division I schools, so really what is the point. Most of the folks that I know that used to be season ticket holders and rarely view this site are fed up with the WSU schedule, style of play, and an AD and coach that seem out of touch. Not sure if these fans will ever become season ticket holders again, but a better fan experience at the Nutter Center might bring them back.
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Post by wsutommygun on Dec 10, 2014 0:49:20 GMT -5
UPtempo, you lost me...how does playing a bunch of big name teams on the road help the fan experience at the Nutter Center? With your logic, Prairie View should be a bunch of high school all-americans. We've had coaches with different scheduling philosophies but they all aimed for a balanced schedule ( Biancardi wanted to play a bunch of teams near us in RPI...I think Schilling liked some top teams but balanced it out with bottom feeders ). Anyway, we've been in the conference championship game the past two seasons so, something must be working to get us to that point. Also, I happen to know someone that is not a coach or AD at Wright State that doesn't care for the approach you suggest and he has a lot more say than anyone on the message board. You also make the mistake of thinking the name of the team automatically makes them better. Every game is tough and you can get out whatever enjoyment you care for with anyone on the schedule.
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Post by Big D on Dec 10, 2014 9:24:54 GMT -5
Oakland is playing their next five games on the road against schools from the power conferences, including Clemson. The only big name we have this year is Ohio State. Why can Oakland schedule these games and WSU does not. I think it would be a plus in recruitment playing a bunch of big name schools every year vs WSU playing a bunch of games against no name schools and DII teams. The DII games are stupid, they are considered an exhibition game for the small schools and the game does not count in your RPI for the Division I schools, so really what is the point. Most of the folks that I know that used to be season ticket holders and rarely view this site are fed up with the WSU schedule, style of play, and an AD and coach that seem out of touch. Not sure if these fans will ever become season ticket holders again, but a better fan experience at the Nutter Center might bring them back. 1. Any low major can schedule like Oakland. All of those BCS games they are playing are buy games on the road. None of those teams are at Oakland. Oakland has 6 BCS schools on their schedule this year. I'm not sure how going 0-6 on the road vs. BCS schools helps recruiting or improves your season ticket sales. 2. We have 2 non D1 games on our schedule this year. So does Oakland. 3. This thread is about the Belmont game. Don't sidetrack it.
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