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Post by jfarrell04 on Mar 3, 2015 22:24:43 GMT -5
Hello Circle - from the looks of it you folks were about 4800 shy of 5000 in the stands tonite.
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Post by gerb on Mar 4, 2015 8:36:08 GMT -5
Hello Circle - from the looks of it you folks were about 4800 shy of 5000 in the stands tonite. The tarps count as sold tickets
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Post by dogbert on Mar 4, 2015 10:42:57 GMT -5
Umm, I wouldn't poke fun at UIC having some seats tarped considering the entire sections on seats tarped off at the nutter center!
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Post by Black PantherU on Mar 4, 2015 11:02:21 GMT -5
We started tarping off end zones in the top level a couple of years ago - straight from a donation coach Jeter made to the university. I know that Green Bay has also tarped off end zones, in fact there was one game we had against them that they claimed was a sellout even though they had the corners tarped (and people were getting turned away at the door). UIC obviously tarps off almost half of their arena.
I believe, and I think this is implied in some of the other posts on this thread, that the reason Wright State has the best attendance in the conference year-to-year is that you guys are truly the #2 sports team in town, which is better than any other team in the conference except Valpo, which only has 30,000 people, and Youngstown, which is just putrid. Even then, I suppose football is a much bigger deal at YSU than basketball - one more reason the conference members should consider addition-by-subtraction by kicking YSU out of the conference.
In Milwaukee, we've got the Bucks, Marquette, and Admirals hockey to go up against in our season alone. UIC has the Bulls, Blackhawks, Northwestern, Loyola, DePaul and Chicago Wolves hockey. Detroit has the Pistons and Red Wings. It's the problem of being in a major city - if you want to average a lot of fans in the pro sports city, you better win and you better not stop winning. I mean hell, nationally-ranked Butler - now in the Big East - has only averaged 7,373 this season, not a whole lot more than they did when they were in our conference.
The good news for you guys is that probably means your ceiling is higher than most if not all of the conference. A few down years of Dayton in correlation with up years for the Raiders and you guys might just sell out the Nutter on a regular basis. I also agree with the poster who said that the Nutter Center is the best arena in the conference. I think there are only a couple negatives, such as a long walk down in the bowl and slightly smaller concourses. But even with that, I think it's one of the best. I'd rank them as such.
1. Nutter 2. Wolstein Center - it's great when you can get it full, like during the NCAA Tournament. For CSU games it's a mausoleum, but it is holds up well 20 years after it's built. 3. Panther Arena - There's no bad seat in the house, plenty of history, the technological stuff is getting better (new wraparound video board). No suites and the food is bad, but at least we can drink haha. Doesn't acknowledge its history as the home to NBA and NCAA Champions as well as concerts from the great musical acts like the Beatles/Stones/Elvis etc. 4. Resch Center - Great arena for watching hoops, nice bowl, suites wrap around the top. Docked for the fact that there's only one bathroom on the floor level and it's in media-only space, so you have to ask an usher to use it. Seriously. 5. O'Rena - For smaller arenas, you can tell in comparison to the ARC that it's much newer. It's also smaller and easier to fill, so big games look outstanding - watching the Detroit game from last month felt like a high-major experience on TV. 6. Pavilion - Quirky, definitely befitting the hockey team that UIC poorly chose to jettison in the 90's. The only conference venue with a true second deck, it feels like a big time building on gameday, until game time when the high-pitched screams of kids fill the arena. 7. ARC - The atmosphere is great, but that's about all it has. The video board in the middle of the arena seems out of place and already obsolete. It doesn't have the charm that old gyms can have, although we may have been spoiled with Hinkle. It's a real mess getting out of the gym, let alone one of the parking lots. If they could put the money together, this is the school that should get a new building. 8. Calihan Hall - This building has the charm that the ARC lacks, but you can tell it's been a long time since it has had any kind of real atmosphere. Even the Vitale court dedication game was kind of depressing to see much of the upper bowl empty. The concourses aren't concourses so much as hallways. They do have an oddly shaped pro shop that is nice and they display their awards right when you walk in. The Titan Lounge is real cool, although it's really just a small conference room with HDTV's and no view of the court or outside. 9. Beeghly Center - Yikes. I like the end-zones-above-the-court thing, but it's just the ARC without the atmosphere. It's got a lot of outdated amenities. It's almost like they don't care about basketball...oh wait.
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Post by jumbojimbo on Mar 4, 2015 12:28:20 GMT -5
#2 winter sports team, but #3 sports team in the "city". Dayton Dragons baseball, UD basketball, WSU basketball. I think we've been helped by being so close to Cincy because Dayton people have always had a mentality of attending sporting events going back to the Reds and to some degree the Bengals.
One big knock against the Nutter Center is the parking. We've been to other arenas and we know the parking is really no worse at the Nutter, but the fact that non season ticket holders have to park downstairs and walk around the lake and come in thru the service entrance is a big turnoff for the casual fan. I hope whoever designed the entrance, exits and parking lots burns in hell.
Edit: and I simply don't understand the point of the tarps. most games they don't make the arena look more full, and for any game with a real crowd it blocks off perfectly good seats. Last year for the Valpo game we had people sitting miles from the court when they could have been sitting in a pie slice. It's a stupid idea that adds no value and actually hurts you at times.
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Post by hhgreen on Mar 4, 2015 13:26:14 GMT -5
The parking is a perk so you will buy season tickets. If you come to every home game it is about 10.00/game if you have season tickets and you get to park close up.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Mar 8, 2015 20:50:56 GMT -5
Hi Circle, OP here. I got all the numbers for attendance from the box score reports on Yahoo sports. Their website is the easiest to navigate, and to get bulk data quickly. I'm not surprised in a small discrepancy to be honest. I'm not sure how attendance figures are determined, I just used the data provided. I do agree with you that some kind of league uniform policy would be effective, if there isn't one already. I'm not speculating at that...I just saved everyone the time of looking up the numbers themselves. I think the league does put out these numbers in official release, and it may, or may not, include post-season play. I just figured I'd jump the gun and get the numbers out there.
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