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Post by Dr J on Feb 4, 2016 11:23:03 GMT -5
Many may be wondering what offense and defense BD wants to use. If we end up it ha big lead in fouls committed and lose the rebound battle, then we lose. Every offensive rebound given up is a turnover.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Feb 4, 2016 15:13:08 GMT -5
Took the wind out of my sales.
Just when we get hot, we go cold. Just typical WSU ball.
Key to this game is Tiby. He's a risk all around, and can score from anywhere. He always seems to play well against us.
Also, we've got to get the ball inside more. Karena has to be more involved than he was in Michigan.
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Post by hittmanraider on Feb 4, 2016 15:16:33 GMT -5
Milwaukee is a veteran team, we will need our A game to win tonight. And I am sure that UWM will be excited to play us after we beat them at their place.
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Post by hhgreen on Feb 4, 2016 16:49:07 GMT -5
We are a veteran team as well and should not just crumble. Rebound rebound rebound. If the jumper ain't going in take it to the rack. I thought the coach was finally realizing what has to be done. Or is it the players that are doing their own thing in Michigan that took us down.
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Post by jumbojimbo on Feb 4, 2016 17:48:03 GMT -5
Sorry, we're at The mercy of mobile, statbroadcast shows the earlier uic game? Can someone post a direct link? Not video, we can't stream.
Joe..Joe..waynester says hi.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Feb 4, 2016 19:48:02 GMT -5
Cannot believe this officiating. Are all the usual suspects on vacation? Who are these clowns?
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Post by hhgreen on Feb 4, 2016 20:36:43 GMT -5
Sounds like 3 blind mice. Amazing what a difference making jumpers makes. We just have to have a game plan when the lid is on the jumpers.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Feb 4, 2016 21:24:10 GMT -5
Of course this game would come down to a last secound foul.
Take the W, take the sweep.
Horribly officated game. One of the worst I've ever seen.
Props to the Panthers for clawing back after being down 20.
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Post by Raider3G on Feb 4, 2016 21:26:28 GMT -5
Out of town, but caught the second half on streaming. Blowing a lead like that at home is never good, but only thing worse is losing. All in all, I'll take sweeping UWM and staying ahead of them in the loss column. Makes game against UWGB even bigger.
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Post by bill80 on Feb 4, 2016 23:15:37 GMT -5
This team is sometimes hard to watch, you know they are going to fold against good competition, just a matter of when. Basically lacking confidence and a good goto leader in tight situations. A lot like last years team only with a little more depth and luck. Cant argue with a win however! They have in my book already exceeded expectations.
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Post by Dr J on Feb 5, 2016 6:09:18 GMT -5
There is on court leadership and off court leadership. The coaches are the off court leadership. When the team has a big lead like in some of the games that were close, win or lose, it seems as though BD wants t try to protect the lead. A negative approach instead of positive approach of keep doing what is working. We need that killer instinct to finish off the games without a collapse.
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Post by ohiopirate on Feb 5, 2016 10:08:52 GMT -5
Random thoughts: Milwaukee fans were not very keen on Joe T's throat slashing gesture after his step back 18 footer that should have been the nail in the coffin. I get that. Other than that moment I loved the energy and passion Joe brought last night. That was a big bucket he hit when I wasn't sure who wanted to take the shot - lot of passing around in the final minutes. I can't believe they fouled Joe in the final 5 seconds - why are they even in a position at half court to give the refs a reason to blow the whistle? Brutal refs all game both ways but that was a foul for sure.
I thought overall Donlon did a good job managing the foul situation. With as many fouls that were called in the first half we could have been in even worse trouble late. I wish he would have taken Grant out at the end of the first half before he picked up his 3rd foul though.
That was a big win for tie-breaking purposes down the road potentially having swept Milwaukee now. Another huge game for Yoho - he is really a special player. It's a shame he's had to battle injuries. I'm not sure how the week breaks down for Horizon League POTW but if Sunday counts then its JT's the lose I think.
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Post by Big D on Feb 5, 2016 12:10:24 GMT -5
I wonder why no one is starting threads about games anymore. There is not one for Green Bay either Wolf usually starts new threads for games. His wife has been dealing with an illness so he has not been able to be as involved on the board or been able to attend games like he has in the past.
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Post by Black PantherU on Feb 5, 2016 13:25:28 GMT -5
There is a post on the Milwaukee board that said they are better than Wright State, haven't we beat them twice? Thought that was funny If defense isn't part of the game, we're a better team than you. Wait, you say defense is half of basketball? Nevermind then.
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Post by Black PantherU on Feb 5, 2016 14:30:11 GMT -5
Random thoughts: Milwaukee fans were not very keen on Joe T's throat slashing gesture after his step back 18 footer that should have been the nail in the coffin. I get that. Other than that moment I loved the energy and passion Joe brought last night. That was a big bucket he hit when I wasn't sure who wanted to take the shot - lot of passing around in the final minutes. I can't believe they fouled Joe in the final 5 seconds - why are they even in a position at half court to give the refs a reason to blow the whistle? Brutal refs all game both ways but that was a foul for sure. The throat slash gesture - which is an automatic technical by NCAA rules and he did it with the official looking directly at him - in and of itself isn't a big deal to me. I'm sure he's like every other kid who watched the Undertaker do it 1,000 times, and it was a big shot so I could forgive the momentary lapse in judgment...can't expect everyone to use an approved celebration at that emotional moment. That said, it's not an isolated moment. I sat courtside in Milwaukee right after New Years, and was 20 feet away from him when Minnis got fouled at the end of that game. He made no physical gesture at all, but the words that came out of his mouth - directed at fans and a couple of our players - are not the kind that I'd repeat on a message board. I'm not someone who is averse to swearing - itty - but Thomasson made my eyebrows go skyward. One of our courtside season-ticket holders, a high-ranking university employee, said after the game that he was blushing just from hearing him and he'd have been embarrassed if Thomasson was in black and gold. Put the trash talking from January 4th (trash talking doesn't begin to describe it, I can't stress that enough) together with the throat slash last night, and it just paints a picture for me about how he comports himself on a basketball court. So, to me Joe Thomasson was embarrassing. He's talented, knows how to use his length and is a good basketball player. But I wouldn't want a guy like that on my team. For all the flopping and exaggerated emotion that Tiby shows on the court, he's never come close to doing anything like Thomasson did at the end of the game last night. And he still embarrasses us from time to time. Mark Alstork is the truth. He'd start anywhere in the league and still be the most underrated player in the starting 5. JT Yoho is almost unguardable on the perimeter, something Arians should have been before he decided to bulk up 30 pounds for some reason and lose any quickness he had gained the previous year. Biggie Minnis is never talked about but I'd love to have that guy on my team. Billy Donlon is better at coaching a team than almost anyone gives him credit for. Thomasson? He's talented, but to me he leaves more to be desired. Total lack of class. He hits a big shot. The other four Raiders on the court, the coaches (save Billy who was still working), all the guys down the bench? They celebrated, cheered. He turns it into a vicious taunt - twice now. Is this how he acts in every close game? I'm sorry, I know that I shouldn't be coming on your board and saying that stuff. As god-awful as those officials were, if I were a Raiders fan I would be thanking my lucky stars the ref five feet away looking right at Thomasson didn't call a technical, because it would have cost you the game. We didn't lose this game because of bad officials. I've watched the game twice now, and I came away feeling like Jeb Hartness walked in on Billy Donlon kissing his wife or something. Seriously, Hartness kept throwing him shady looks and I counted six fouls on WSU that should have been no-calls in the first 5 minutes of the game. We lost this game because our defense is almost non-existent. Awful doesn't even begin to describe how bad Milwaukee is when they aren't in possession of the ball. Like, holy crap bad. It's not helped when all three of our starting guards are dealing with leg injuries, but that's not an acceptable excuse. Despite all of the bad play, we had this game real close. Then JR Lyle, who was a big part of the comeback, made pretty much the most boneheaded foul in his career with five seconds left. Let's just bask in how bad officiating has gotten in the Horizon League. What would last night's game have looked like if the officiating had been even average? Would Milwaukee have won? Would Wright State have still won? Would the Raiders have been up 30 at halftime? My guess is WSU would have won by more than one, but the officiating was so bad that we have not the slightest idea what the game could have looked like if they did their job. The best officials are barely noticed. The Horizon League is overrun by guys I know by name because I can remember awful calls they've made off the top of my head, so bad and so numerous that I grab a box score just so I can put a name to a face and a terrible job. Again, we lose because our defense is total ass, not because of the referees. But it's getting to the point that I'm wondering why the hell almost every team's fans are talking about bad officiating on every board after every game. Go on other conference message boards, they don't talk about bad officiating nearly as much as HL teams do. We should have taken the Butler tournament money and paid better officials.
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