Game 24: Milwaukee

[Big D]

Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Thomason is an alter boy compared to the behavior you see regularly from Tibby. He is without a doubt one of the top 5 biggest assholes I have ever watched play in the HL since we joined. Worry about your own team Jimmy.

[Black PantherU]

Feb 5, 2016 16:40:29 GMT -5 @optimistjp said:

Having just re-watched that part of the game on ESPN3, I "guess" Joe may have made the gesture, but it was to himself as he was running down the court, and really was not any kind of a taunt or attempt to show up Milwaukee. I would not call a technical in that case. Who knows, maybe Joe was just waving his arm to get players to spread out. Not at all an obvious gesture deserving a technical.

Opti

I'll accept "it was to no one in particular." May have made the gesture, nah. It happened. Waving his arm to get players to spread out? Nah. Not at all an obvious gesture, nah.



As for it being to no one in particular, I wasn't aware of it until one of the people on our bench told me he was looking at our guys when he started it. I can accept the argument that it wasn't at anyone in particular. I just know they felt it was at the bench, and when he starts the gesture he's looking in that direction.

Speaking of direction, Thomasson is directly in the ref's line of sight.

I think it was timing. No ref wants to call a foul at the end of the game like that, let alone a technical. We're just up in arms about it when it's compared to the second-lamest technical called on us this season when Cody Wichmann was called for 'shoving' Thomasson earlier in the half.

[hhgreen]

You are right about Joe. He is a good player and is very emotional on the court. Nobody is used to WSU having such an emotional player on the court especially our opponents. They are used to us being pushed around and going quietly about our business on the court. This year it is definitely different.

[Dr J]

This is a moot point. Also, that they are better than the Raiders. The game is played on the court and the results are the results. It is evident these two teams are pretty equal but so far this year the Raiders have won the series. Let's focus on upcoming games and continue to win and have fun.

[Black PantherU]

Feb 6, 2016 10:48:18 GMT -5 Dr J said:

This is a moot point. Also, that they are better than the Raiders. The game is played on the court and the results are the results. It is evident these two teams are pretty equal but so far this year the Raiders have won the series. Let's focus on upcoming games and continue to win and have fun.

I don't think there's an argument. We don't have a defense. It's hard to win basketball games when your opponent is shooting so much better than their average. Here's our Horizon League opponents, their season FG% and their FG% vs Milwaukee:

Team (Season)
@home:

Wright State (44.7%)
@mke: 51.7%
@wsu: 56%

Northern Kentucky (44.9%)
@mke: 37.5%

Cleveland State (41.3%)
@csu: 51.9%

Youngstown State (42.3%)
@ysu: 42.4%

Detroit (46.3%)
@mke: 47.2%

Oakland (45.9%)
@mke: 45.8%

Valparaiso (44.7%)
@valpo: 50%

UIC (39%)
@uic: 42.9%

Green Bay (45.4%)
@gb: 63.3%

Some weren't bad. Oakland, Detroit, YSU all did close to their season average. NKU, who started hot, went cold and shot a much lower percentage in their game against us. Besides that though, look at that. Wright State shot 7% and 11.3% better than their current season average (which includes these games). CSU shot 10.7% better. Valpo shot 5.3% better. UIC shot almost 4% better. Green Bay shot 17.9% better than their current season average. It's incredible that we were even in that game, but it turns out Green Bay can be as bad as us defensively.

The Panthers, as they currently play on defense, would not challenge for a conference title. We'd need a bunch of luck to get into the two-seed at this point - we need to do two games better than Wright State. If WSU goes 5-3 in the back half (some would say a conservative estimate, but everyone always loses a game or two they should win), Milwaukee would have to go 8-1 the rest of the way.

So that one guy's throwaway comment that we're better? Yeah, it's not like you need a lot of supporting argument to shoot it down.

[Dr J]

Black Panther, we both realize the offense and defense both need to be played with enthusiasm in the game. Good luck to the Panthers, except when playing the Raiders.