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Post by getrowdy44 on Jan 14, 2011 21:40:37 GMT -5
I also was very unhappy with the lack of hussel/strength when it came down to loose balls. Our freshmen would have the ball in their hands with no Valpo players really making an effort to grab it and we would just fumble it away. This had to have happened at least 5 times and I would guess Valpo scored on those lazy plays all but once.
Combine that with the poor FT shooting in the clutch....just made it a rough night
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Post by rock70 on Jan 14, 2011 22:14:58 GMT -5
Here's the thing....................8,398 show up and this had the making of getting the community on the WSU bandwagon and literally selling out the Butler game Sunday then we completely fell apart the last three minutes of the1st half and the entire second half.
This has to be one of the biggest blown opportunities to change our perception in the community.
The student turnout was phenominal and ..................well now we have to start at ground zero to get them to come back...................................so disappointed.
Let me be the first to congratulate the athletic dept. you did and outstanding job of promoting the game then you stepped and handled the crowd. Shirts were being handed out with ease and everyone was in their seats prior to tip off. You should be proud of your selfs and the effort you put forth!
This is a tough pill to swallow.
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Post by wolf41 on Jan 14, 2011 22:24:50 GMT -5
Ouch! That hurt. Give Homer Drew and Valpo all the credit. They flat out beat us, especially Brandon Wood. I think in the last 5 minutes, or less, of the first half and the first 5 minutes of the second half it seemed like Wood scored 21 or 24 points. In fact, he may have been their sole source of points during that stretch. He took over the game and no one could stop him.
I think we were out rebounded again by 9 boards.
We had 4 guys playing 30+ minutes
I don't recall how many minutes Mpondo played, but I think he had 4 fouls, which limited his time played, zero points I think, and I can only recall 1 rebound.
Tabler had an off night for him, but played over 30 minutes. I think the freshmen might have benefitted by more playing time. Obviously, the same is true for Mpondo.
Land, Duggins, and N'Gai played hard and well. I would have liked to have seen more of Battle, Darling, Pacher, Vest, and Hall.
Valpo really picked up their defensive pressure in the second half. They hit the boards all night long, stealing a number of boards purely due to their intense effort. They hit about 54% to our 44 or maybe 47%, thus ending up with 8 more goals. Actually, our FG% is only .430 for the season due in large part to Tabler hitting only .402 and Duggins hitting only .419. And they are the guys taking most of the shots, or nearly 50%.
I heard N'Gai hurt his hand, but I never heard when he hurt it or how badly he hurt it. Let's hope he doesn't miss any game time.
Does anyone know who the guy was on the bench tonight wearing a sweater?
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Post by wolf41 on Jan 14, 2011 22:32:09 GMT -5
Yes that was a great crowd, due largely to the student body. Let's hope we do the same or better on Sunday.A WSU win would have probably helped us in subsequent games. Now we have to wait to see what happens on Sunday. Earlier comments, I think, showed that if we want to pick up the casual fans we need to cut the price to $10-$12.
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Post by hhgreen on Jan 14, 2011 22:43:41 GMT -5
We got man handled the second half. If we did not shoot out our rears the first half we were in trouble then as well. We let too many layups and little bunnies in the paint to win this game. The game was won in the middle by Valpo. If you watched the game going on in the middle without the ball you would see that they were winning the pushing and shoving war to clear out the middle. We are an inch too short and 30 pounds to light in the paint. Not to mention all the freethrow oppurtunities we threw away. I hope the crowd comes back for Butler Sunday. It will be a tough sell after watching our guys not compete the second half. I will be there cheering us on. GO RAIDERS!!!!
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Post by Fastbreak on Jan 14, 2011 23:08:49 GMT -5
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Post by mrg on Jan 15, 2011 0:22:57 GMT -5
It was a very disappointing night other than the nice crowd. I think WSU was lucky they hit about every shot in the first half. It is very difficult to shoot like that for two halfs. WSU was out coached and out played tonight. Valpo was the better prepared team tonight. At times WSU looked lost on how defend them. Tonight was one of those games that will be a learning experience for the coaches and players.
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Post by Wolf on Jan 15, 2011 0:53:23 GMT -5
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Post by jerome1 on Jan 15, 2011 3:59:49 GMT -5
Basically, there’s no formula for the current first-place logjam. Perhaps it’s true what WSU coach Billy Donlon has repeated several times in the past few weeks: “In our league, if you’re not ready, you can get embarrassed in any game.”
So true! 8,000 plus couldn't stop the determined Brandon Wood.
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Post by CincyDrummer on Jan 15, 2011 10:18:12 GMT -5
There were 2 comments I overheard from what seemed to be more "casual" fans tonight that sorta got my attention.
Comment 1: (While standing in the student line to get tickets scanned/t shirts)--Guy 1: Looking at his ticket: "Who's Valporitza?" Guy2: "I dunno, never heard of 'em. They must be pretty good since they're here on a blackout night."
Comment 2: While exiting the nutter: Random student guy: "Man, I knew we shouldn't have come tonight. Wright State sucks, no wonder I didn't know we had a basketball team."
Comment 2 is what got me the most. I know it's been seen a hundred times, but boy, what a GIANT, GIANT chance we blew to make an impact on some casual fans and especially STUDENTS tonight. I personally know at least 10 students who were there for their 1st basketball game at WSU in 4 years who probably won't be back after last night, if just for the fact that they got bored in the 2nd half seeing us get our asses kicked. What a damn shame. We blew such a fantastic chance last night. Go figure
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Post by wsu97 on Jan 15, 2011 10:39:27 GMT -5
Comment 2: While exiting the nutter: Random student guy: "Man, I knew we shouldn't have come tonight. Wright State sucks, no wonder I didn't know we had a basketball team." Comment 2 is what got me the most. I know it's been seen a hundred times, but boy, what a GIANT, GIANT chance we blew to make an impact on some casual fans and especially STUDENTS tonight. I personally know at least 10 students who were there for their 1st basketball game at WSU in 4 years who probably won't be back after last night, if just for the fact that they got bored in the 2nd half seeing us get our asses kicked. What a damn shame. We blew such a fantastic chance last night. Go figure Two thoughts: First, We had a bad second half last night, but we also had a great first half. I think anyone with a clue about college basketball could see the potential of this team from watching the first half and would be willing to come back and see us play again. If they aren't willing to come back after that, they probably weren't willing to come back no matter what. Second, I don't care if an "idiot" student ever attends games. If a kid was dumb enough to say "no wonder I didn't know we had a basketball team" I never want him at the Nutter Center again anyways. You have to be completely retarded to not know we have a basketball team. If you have ever come to Wright State you would know that the Nutter Center is the single largest structure on campus. What did the idiot think it was for, chess club? We don't need idiots like that at games. He isn't a basketball fan and was probably never going to come back anyways.
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Post by keithfromxenia on Jan 15, 2011 10:59:10 GMT -5
wolf, mpondo had 15" too many. he is an absolute nothing for us in the post. no points, 1 very late rebound, and during his time in there valpo was taking it to the hole with regularity without challenge by him. if johan was the best post player we could sign that is a real problem for our program.
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Post by Raider Country on Jan 15, 2011 11:10:02 GMT -5
wolf, mpondo had 15" too many. he is an absolute nothing for us in the post. no points, 1 very late rebound, and during his time in there valpo was taking it to the hole with regularity without challenge by him. if johan was the best post player we could sign that is a real problem for our program. When Brownell left last year we lost most of our team. Donlon had to put together a coaching staff, scramble to fill out the roster, and schedule. Johann is not a great post player, but signing him was a reflection of how late it was in the recruiting process last year, NOT that there is a problem with our program. When given time to recruit, Donlon has signed 2 very good post players for next year. I think everyone on the planet except our own fanbase realized that this season was going to be a rebuilding period for Wright State. We were picked by the people that know the HL best to finish in 6th place. Coach has done a very good job getting us to where we are today. As he keeps adding pieces to the puzzle through recruiting, I think he will be the guy that takes us to the next level.
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Post by CincyDrummer on Jan 15, 2011 11:45:29 GMT -5
Unfortunately I think that next year will be even more of a rebuilding year than this one
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Post by Big D on Jan 15, 2011 13:29:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately I think that next year will be even more of a rebuilding year than this one It might. It might not. It all depend on how much our current players develop this off season and who we bring in with our last scholarship. We are loosing some great guards this year, but we should also get better in the paint.
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