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Post by wsutommygun on Sept 23, 2015 11:05:27 GMT -5
I don't really get much out of polls, whether it is ranking teams or players ( or music videos or sexy actresses ). How would you rate polls? Go back ten years and see how many number ones were right...number 2...3...and so on. With players it is even more subjective ( I would think ). I thought Wolf41's post was worth reading ( until the last sentence when he mentioned Wright State ).
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Post by Raider Alumni on Sept 23, 2015 12:41:12 GMT -5
Like them or not polls matter. If you are ranked high going into the season it increases fan turnout early in the year because it builds a buzz about your program.
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Post by wsutommygun on Sept 23, 2015 13:30:37 GMT -5
Polls are based on the most part on what happened in the previous year. If someone is new or hurt in the preseason...well, it is what it is. I look at the polls, just wouldn't trade my being a fan based on them. I have no idea if these writers have any credibility based on past predictions but, someone keeps paying them and people keep looking to see how their team/league stacks up.
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Post by mrose on Sept 23, 2015 13:57:45 GMT -5
Obviously they look at incoming recruits and transfers. Additionally, they take into account the number of returning starters, non-starters that had quality minutes, and the total % of points, rebounds, and assists returning.
In my opinion, you can get a decent picture of who the top 25 teams should be in the preseason and that of conference predictions. That said, I expect the preseason polls to have more "margin of error" than that of polls/predictions come December, but nonetheless they give a decent barometer of the programs.
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Post by wolf41 on Sept 23, 2015 15:03:52 GMT -5
My point, or perhaps, my points was considering compositions of teams and how WSU compares with them. Needless to say, I wasn't going to compile data for about 350 teams, so when I saw the ranking of the top 25players by position I thought that might be a useful proxy. Based upon years of watching local basketball, as well as OSU and UC, I felt that the game had become taller over time. Of course, I don't have comparable dats from the early 50s handy, but I feel comfortable in thinking that the teams are taller today. The fact that only 5 PGs were under 6' surprised me, and only 2 were below 5''10", what has been considered average for sometime. In short, basketball has become an even more "above average" sport relative to height. Bill Uhl and Walter Dukes were viewed as oddities when they played, but now we have 7 such people among the top 25 centers.
So when WSU goes with 8 or 9 guards, only 5 big men,soon reduced to 4, then 2, you have to have doubts, or should have, about what WSU is aiming for in men's basketball. Is the goal only to participate in MBB, to be strong in basketball, to win the HL, or to get to the NCAA and maybe win some games? If your choice is one of the later, then I think we need to look at the composition of the team AND the quality of the big men. We need quantity and quality to reach those loftier goals. Height alone isn't going to win the day.
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Post by Nutt House on Sept 26, 2015 15:52:44 GMT -5
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Post by Black PantherU on Sept 26, 2015 16:39:42 GMT -5
It's part of a three-year plan to really make the building our own. The Wisconsin Center District (the state entity that owns the arena) is spending its own money on the projects. Last summer, they added the new video center scoreboard, put better video boards in the corners, updated the signage for the new naming rights, and put in Panther-colored seats in the 100/200 level. This summer, they've redone the 300 level seats, finished updating the signage, and they're putting in this permanent store. Next summer, they're finishing the seating with the 400 level. This doesn't just benefit us, but the AHL Admirals (Nashville Predators' farm team) that will be coming to the Arena by 2018 (more likely 2016-17 season). It was planned before they were set to come over, though.
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Post by Hoops Junkie on Oct 5, 2015 8:16:03 GMT -5
Blue Ribbon's Horizon League predictions:
1. Valparaiso 2. Milwaukee 3. Oakland 4. Detroit 5. Green Bay 6. Wright State 7. Cleveland State 8. YSU 9. UIC
NKU was excluded from the conference predictions because as a transitional program from D2, they are not eligible for the conference championship until 2016-17.
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Post by Indy Raider on Oct 9, 2015 21:56:50 GMT -5
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Post by Raider Southpaw on Oct 10, 2015 8:52:44 GMT -5
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Post by Doliboabros on Oct 12, 2015 10:03:26 GMT -5
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Post by Big D on Oct 17, 2015 12:05:49 GMT -5
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Post by wsutommygun on Oct 17, 2015 13:42:47 GMT -5
I watched some of the replay yesterday. When the reporters started asking questions I couldn't hear well enough...wish LeCrone would have repeated them or have the HL pass a microphone around ( maybe it was just my problem )...anyway, fast forwarded to hear what Billy, JT, and Joe had to say.
Kept thinking of the Raider Tip-Off event that I missed during the high school football game, hope it went well.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Jan 12, 2016 18:46:14 GMT -5
Just wanted to let the board know that Andrew Smith of Butler University died today of cancer. He played for Butler from 2009-2013, and led Butler to two Final Four's. He is survived by his wife Samantha.
Prayers to his family and friends.
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Post by gerb on Jan 13, 2016 7:39:03 GMT -5
Just wanted to let the board know that Andrew Smith of Butler University died today of cancer. He played for Butler from 2009-2013, and led Butler to two Final Four's. He is survived by his wife Samantha. Prayers to his family and friends. Poor guy had a rough go of it. I read about his situation when it first went public and it was heartbreaking. Sure, we tend to have an ire toward players on rival teams, but in the end, everyone's human. Shame he had to face this.
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