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Post by Hoops Junkie on Apr 2, 2022 12:05:01 GMT -5
I agree with some of this--the current roster can more easily fill the void left by Basile. The void left by Holden is another story. There are plenty of capable 3-point shooters on the roster, but who can drive to the basket and finish or draw the foul? Tanner made 221 free throws this past season. The rest of the team made 301. Grant accounted for another 131 makes, so Tanner and Grant combined for 67% of the made free throws. Throw in Tanner's rebounding, the cuts he made, and all the little things he did, I think we are going to miss him greatly. The 2 freshmen will help, but this team desperately needs some athletic playmakers. Tanner and Grant took the most FTs but they also took a great deal more regular shots than anyone else. Shots are going to have to be divided more evenly this year among multiple players. We are going to need more people trying to drive. Finke did a great job of driving in the Arizona game in the NCAAs. Welage showed that ability when he was playing more aggressive later in the year. I agree though, we need to bring in 1-2 guys that can create their own shot.
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Post by Raider3G on Apr 2, 2022 14:07:12 GMT -5
I agree with some of this--the current roster can more easily fill the void left by Basile. The void left by Holden is another story. There are plenty of capable 3-point shooters on the roster, but who can drive to the basket and finish or draw the foul? Tanner made 221 free throws this past season. The rest of the team made 301. Grant accounted for another 131 makes, so Tanner and Grant combined for 67% of the made free throws. Throw in Tanner's rebounding, the cuts he made, and all the little things he did, I think we are going to miss him greatly. The 2 freshmen will help, but this team desperately needs some athletic playmakers. Tanner and Grant took the most FTs but they also took a great deal more regular shots than anyone else. Shots are going to have to be divided more evenly this year among multiple players. We are going to need more people trying to drive. Finke did a great job of driving in the Arizona game in the NCAAs. Welage showed that ability when he was playing more aggressive later in the year. I agree though, we need to bring in 1-2 guys that can create their own shot. I think Trey is going to have to work and get to the rim a lot more for the team to repeat as league champs. He showed later on the year he can take anyone off the dribble, including Arizona. And he's an 85% ft shooter. He still needs to be smart about it, but I think he'll help fill some, but not all, of that void in numbers of FT. This Mak Manciel good also fill some of that in terms of his a ability to drive from his highlight tape.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Apr 2, 2022 15:45:27 GMT -5
IMO Finke and Calvin looked good against all the Power 5 teams we played. That is probably in part because the other teams had to focus on Grant and Tranner but still they were more solid.
The transfers WSU has interest in, look pretty solid. It's critical we get those talented transfers. If we end up another dull transfer class it will be a lost season. No offense to some of the chatter of Alex H and Noel playing more but if we are expected them to contribute then next season will be rough.
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Post by wsuwillie on Apr 8, 2022 6:39:45 GMT -5
Is there any inside scoop on how Noel and Huby are re-habbing/healing-up?
Also, any opinions on the development of Welage? I really like that guy and think I see the potential in him - he needs to continue to add muscle. Can he be a starter with Calvin & Finke while also being a backup PG?
Does Carter have the bulk to be a starter as well? Curious how we fill the 4 spot.
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Post by SportsFan on Apr 8, 2022 7:05:30 GMT -5
Is there any inside scoop on how Noel and Huby are re-habbing/healing-up? Also, any opinions on the development of Welage? I really like that guy and think I see the potential in him - he needs to continue to add muscle. Can he be a starter with Calvin & Finke while also being a backup PG? Does Carter have the bulk to be a starter as well? Curious how we fill the 4 spot. 100% Agree on Welage. I really enjoy his game. If he adds a bit of muscle, he could be our best playmaker.
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Post by Wolf on Apr 8, 2022 19:32:27 GMT -5
Is there any inside scoop on how Noel and Huby are re-habbing/healing-up? Both are fully participating in off season workouts. There is no reason to believe they won't both be 100% next season.
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Post by wsuwillie on Apr 9, 2022 7:49:19 GMT -5
Is there any inside scoop on how Noel and Huby are re-habbing/healing-up? Also, any opinions on the development of Welage? I really like that guy and think I see the potential in him - he needs to continue to add muscle. Can he be a starter with Calvin & Finke while also being a backup PG? Does Carter have the bulk to be a starter as well? Curious how we fill the 4 spot. 100% Agree on Welage. I really enjoy his game. If he adds a bit of muscle, he could be our best playmaker. Did anyone see Welage play in High School? In what position(s) was he most effective/comfortable?
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Post by Big D on Apr 9, 2022 8:47:15 GMT -5
Did anyone see Welage play in High School? In what position(s) was he most effective/comfortable? His best position is the 3 if he puts on more weight. He isn’t quick enough to defend the 2 against athletic guards.
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Post by wsuwillie on Apr 11, 2022 6:41:23 GMT -5
Didn't know a better place to put this:
Grant and Tanner were certainly terrific players for us. They also seemed (logically) to be more-likely to be interviewed. I wonder who that person(s) will be next year and who fills the void in meeting with recruits?
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Post by wsuraider09 on Apr 11, 2022 11:49:26 GMT -5
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Post by Hoops Junkie on Apr 11, 2022 19:29:37 GMT -5
This is our updated roster after Blake Sisley's commitment today. We still have 2 scholarships available.
Seniors: Trey Calvin CJ Wilbourn Tim Finke RS
Juniors: Andrew Welage
Sophomores: Keaton Norris AJ Braun Blake Sisley Alex Huibregtse RS Brandon Noel RS
Freshmen: Logan Woods Drey Carter
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Post by SportsFan on Apr 12, 2022 9:44:04 GMT -5
I am feeling better about the roster after adding Sisley. I think he along with Braun, Noel, Wilbourn, and maybe Carter can handle all of minutes and different matchups at the 4/5.
That leaves Calvin and Norris for all of the minutes at the 1, with Calvin playing some off-ball minutes at the 2 when Norris is also in.
For the remaining minutes at the 2/3, Finke will play as many as he can handle. That leaves Alex, Welage, Carter and Woods for the remaining.
I think a lineup of Calvin, Finke, Welage, Sisley and Braun makes sense to start. Then have Norris, Alex, Noel, CJ and the freshmen playing most of the bench minutes.
I wonder if we will add any other impact transfers. An athletic wing would be ideal.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Apr 12, 2022 9:53:16 GMT -5
I am feeling better about the roster after adding Sisley. I think he along with Braun, Noel, Wilbourn, and maybe Carter can handle all of minutes and different matchups at the 4/5. That leaves Calvin and Norris for all of the minutes at the 1, with Calvin playing some off-ball minutes at the 2 when Norris is also in. For the remaining minutes at the 2/3, Finke will play as many as he can handle. That leaves Alex, Welage, Carter and Woods for the remaining. I think a lineup of Calvin, Finke, Welage, Sisley and Braun makes sense to start. Then have Norris, Alex, Noel, CJ and the freshmen playing most of the bench minutes. I wonder if we will add any other impact transfers. An athletic wing would be ideal. I think Sisley is an immediate impact guy, and is hopefully a day 1 starter. He was on the all-freshman team in the 11th best NET-ranked conference last season (HL was 27th). The big miss here is that, after several years of having an absolute game changing player inside, we simply don't have that threat right now. I'm still hopeful on one of these JUCO big men (Patrick Cartier looks like the best one I've seen, or Zion Griffin to some extent) will be the key for us to stay on the level we're on. The team certainly has the guards and shooters, but I still believe that the combo of AJ and CJ certainly bring our inside game down several notches from last season.
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Post by Big D on Apr 12, 2022 11:08:01 GMT -5
I'm still hopeful on one of these JUCO big men (Patrick Cartier looks like the best one I've seen, or Zion Griffin to some extent) will be the key for us to stay on the level we're on. The team certainly has the guards and shooters, but I still believe that the combo of AJ and CJ certainly bring our inside game down several notches from last season. We are done recruiting bigs for next year. Look for us to add a SG and SF with our 2 remaining scholarships. Mak Manciel is our top option at SG and we have Durkin visiting this weekend. He may be our top choice at SF.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Apr 12, 2022 13:26:12 GMT -5
I'm still hopeful on one of these JUCO big men (Patrick Cartier looks like the best one I've seen, or Zion Griffin to some extent) will be the key for us to stay on the level we're on. The team certainly has the guards and shooters, but I still believe that the combo of AJ and CJ certainly bring our inside game down several notches from last season. We are done recruiting bigs for next year. Look for us to add a SG and SF with our 2 remaining scholarships. Mak Manciel is our top option at SG and we have Durkin visiting this weekend. He may be our top choice at SF. I get wanting Manciel. He looks great on tape, don't get me wrong. Durkin looks good too. I just think that, if the discussion is over our 2022-2023 roster, we've got good pieces in the works for replacing the talent and skillset of Tanner; but we've not done a good job replacing the interior skill set of Grant, and I'm very hesitant to give Wilbourn or Braun Basile-like minutes based on their play last season. Braun could surprise us in the offseason, especially if he puts on weight, I just think we should have put our eggs in another basket to give Braun one more year to work his way into being our #1 inside option. I'm disappointed that the coaching staff doesn't see that as an issue with our roster moving forward.
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