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Post by rock70 on Nov 13, 2022 10:54:36 GMT -5
BigD & Wolf both mentioned who they would like to see starting and playing in the Louisville thread ( I agreed with thier suggestions) so I wanted to start a separate thread.
Who I'd like to see start.
Brandon Noel 6-8 230 lbs
AJ Braun 6-9 235 lbs
Tim Finke 6-6 215 lbs
Amari Davis 6-2 175 lbs
Trey Calvin 6-0 175 lbs
Subs
Blake Sisley 6-9 230 lbs
Keaton Norris 5-10
Alex Huibregtse 6-3 195 lbs
Andrew Welage 6-6 180 lbs
For starters I think Noel is athletic enough to defend smaller PF in the Horizon League and what a mismatch we would have on the offensive end.
Finke would go to his natural small forward/wing position and not be asked to defend post players which I believe wears him down physically and thus affect his offensive output. He seems to leave a ton of shots short ( hits the front of the rim) so I wonder if a fresher Finke starts becoming more reliable on offense?
I also think we're a better rebounding team with this taller lineup.
Like BigD mentioned I'd rotate Sisley with Noel & Braun and always play big then rotate the 3 guards in at the point, two guard, and wing.
What are your thoughts?
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Post by wsuairstrike on Nov 13, 2022 11:19:22 GMT -5
Good starting 5. Two games in and Blake and Andrew look way better than Alex. I'm not sure how Alex made the rotation his freshmen year and two games in this year, he has more minutes then Blake and Andrew. Coach needs to figure it out so they can get more playing time. Great that Alex had 10 points but rewatch the game yesterday and you'll see he had some poor shot selection but fortunately they hit.
Considering Andrew played well in the HL finals and is an unsung hero of that game (coach decision to put him in and make adjustments changed that game), I don't see why he isn't playing more.
Finke also needs to get on track with his shooting but damn he had some great passes in the game against UL. Not sure if he will figure it out shooting wise. I said the same thing last year for the first few games and it didn't get any better. The goal should be to lessen his minutes and hope that helps.
Still curious why Davis was on the bench the last 5 minutes against UL. He isn't taking shots like I thought he would but he is so athletic. Hopefully the more he gels with the team the more he can take over. I think he's going to dominate the HL.
I wonder if wilbourn will get any playing time. I'm surprised and impressed Noel is playing so well in 2 games. Maybe wilbourn somehow takes a step forward and can provide some minutes too.
In two games this team has played really well. They could have folded against UL. They could have had a bad performance with the Davidson game hanging over them. But they didn't they hung around and took it to UL. I'm trying to manage expectations but this seems like a team that could get an upset in the tournament. The build of the team just has that appearance to me.
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Post by oldfan on Nov 13, 2022 11:44:30 GMT -5
Not questioning Nagy's starting team because his knowledge of basketball is so superior to anyone who posts here, but I totally agree with your suggested line up. Maybe he'll give it a try with our game against Defiance.
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Post by wsuwillie on Nov 13, 2022 11:53:44 GMT -5
I agree with that ^ starting lineup. The (3) big guys can split the 80 minutes of playing time and if Wilborn gets a few of those minutes that would be fine...but just a limited few. What a luxury we (may) have there.
I like Norris, but I think he should only get minutes when Calvin needs a break. Norris is zero threat to score and when Finke struggles offensively (which is much more often that not) we are at a serious disadvantage offensively and to-my-eye no better defensively - especially when Finke is guarding a big forward.
Alex is a bit of a wildcard, but he's one of just a few guys who can get off his shot pretty-much at will...and he IS a good shooter.
I really like Welage and the way he plays. He's very effective on both ends. No reason for him not to spell Finke + . There is no good reason for Finke to play 31 minutes in a game like last night.
I love unselfish basketball...but I'd like Amari to get a little bit selfish.
It's early and there is a lot to like.
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Post by Raider Volleyball on Nov 13, 2022 13:19:09 GMT -5
Honestly, I am just happy we have been seeing 8-9 guys get playing time through the first 2 games. We all know Coach Nagy has primarily gone with a 7-man rotation most of the time he has been here at Wright State. We have a deep and talented team. It's great that he is playing more guys and I think the starting lineup and the amount of playing time guys get is going to change throughout the year based on how guys are performing. Last year for example, AJ Braun didn't play at all at the beginning of the year. Coach Nagy planned on redshirting him if I remember correctly. AJ got a chance to play in the MTE we participated in and earned a spot in the starting rotation soon afterwards. I don't think anything is set in stone yet and we will see multiple guys in the starting lineup before we get to HL play as our staff continues to experiment with player combinations.
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Post by Hoops Junkie on Nov 13, 2022 14:54:05 GMT -5
I agree with pretty much everything said so far in this thread. I am really encouraged by seeing 8-9 guys getting playing time these first 2 games and I don't think the starting lineup or main rotation is going to be set until after our OOC schedule is complete. I also agree that I hope to see us going back to 2 big men in the lineup at all times. I really like this team and I am excited about this season.
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Post by eyappo on Nov 13, 2022 17:11:50 GMT -5
BigD & Wolf both mentioned who they would like to see starting and playing in the Louisville thread ( I agreed with thier suggestions) so I wanted to start a separate thread. Who I'd like to see start. Brandon Noel 6-8 230 lbs AJ Braun 6-9 235 lbs Tim Finke 6-6 215 lbs Amari Davis 6-2 175 lbs Trey Calvin 6-0 175 lbs Subs Blake Sisley 6-9 230 lbs Keaton Norris 5-10 Alex Huibregtse 6-3 195 lbs Andrew Welage 6-6 180 lbs For starters I think Noel is athletic enough to defend smaller PF in the Horizon League and what a mismatch we would have on the offensive end. Finke would go to his natural small forward/wing position and not be asked to defend post players which I believe wears him down physically and thus affect his offensive output. He seems to leave a ton of shots short ( hits the front of the rim) so I wonder if a fresher Finke starts becoming more reliable on offense. I also think we're a better rebounding team with this taller lineup. Like BigD mentioned I'd rotate Sisley with Noel & Braun and always play big then rotate the 3 guards in at the point, two guard, and wing. What are your thoughts? I agree with this starting lineup and think this is where we end up. Brandon hasn’t play in two seasons. He may not be in game shape yet so they are working him in. |
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Post by Dr J on Nov 14, 2022 12:18:39 GMT -5
This probably won’t be a popular post. I think Welage should start stead of Finke. Welage has been more effective in first two games. Finke needs to earn his way back to starter with more effective play. This is more to stimulate Finke and not punishment. His shooting percentage has been terrible and not near his potential.
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Post by nomeara on Nov 14, 2022 14:50:20 GMT -5
Remember how well Billy Wampler played coming off the bench his senior season? I had that same thought after the game Saturday.
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Post by raider62 on Nov 14, 2022 14:53:50 GMT -5
This probably won’t be a popular post. I think Welage should start stead of Finke. Welage has been more effective in first two games. Finke needs to earn his way back to starter with more effective play. This is more to stimulate Finke and not punishment. His shooting percentage has been terrible and not near his potential. I actually had a similar thought, although I hadn't considered who should start in his place. It worked wonders when Coach Nagy did that with Billy Wampler a few years ago. I agree that a move like that should not be considered a punishment, just a way to shake things up a little. |
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Post by eyappo on Nov 14, 2022 20:08:42 GMT -5
This probably won’t be a popular post. I think Welage should start stead of Finke. Welage has been more effective in first two games. Finke needs to earn his way back to starter with more effective play. This is more to stimulate Finke and not punishment. His shooting percentage has been terrible and not near his potential. I actually had a similar thought, although I hadn't considered who should start in his place. It worked wonders when Coach Nagy did that with Billy Wampler a few years ago. I agree that a move like that should not be considered a punishment, just a way to shake things up a little. I would love to see Tim score in the mid-teens. He is on the court because of his defense. The Wampler comparison doesn’t work, there games are different. |
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Post by nomeara on Nov 14, 2022 20:43:34 GMT -5
Their games are different for sure but Tim has the same green light that Billy had. It's worth consideration, maybe against defiance and then in the first game of the MTE. If it doesn't work then it doesn't work.......but what if it does.
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Post by Dr J on Nov 14, 2022 20:53:57 GMT -5
I actually had a similar thought, although I hadn't considered who should start in his place. It worked wonders when Coach Nagy did that with Billy Wampler a few years ago. I agree that a move like that should not be considered a punishment, just a way to shake things up a little. I would love to see Tim score in the mid-teens. He is on the court because of his defense. The Wampler comparison doesn’t work, there games are different. I would like to see shooting 35-40% from 3 range and 40-45% from 2 point area. It may help his scoring if he is back to guarding a SF rather than a PF. |
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Post by guyinstandswithbeer on Nov 14, 2022 22:36:39 GMT -5
You guys are absolutely insane if you think Coach Nagy would ever remove Tim from our starting lineup. If it was possible, Nagy would make 4 clones of Tim and play all five of them together.
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Post by beatud on Nov 14, 2022 23:19:10 GMT -5
You guys are absolutely insane if you think Coach Nagy would ever remove Tim from our starting lineup. If it was possible, Nagy would make 4 clones of Tim and play all five of them together. I love Tim, but at some point, I'm sure Nagy will be forced to changed something. Finke was too good of a shooter in 20-21 for this to continue. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to shoot over 40% from three again.
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