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Post by wsuraider09 on Feb 24, 2023 9:41:35 GMT -5
That was quite an unexpected result last night. Technically, YSU remains up half a game, but only plays one game this weekend where everyone else atop the standings is playing two. Assuming they beat IUPUI in that game (doesn't seem like something we should bank on at this point), they'd move to 15-5. If Cleveland State sweeps the Wisconsin road trip this weekend, they'd also be 15-5. Those two teams split on the season, so the tiebreakers then go down the HL final standings. How that gets decided would depend on how teams 3-4-5 all seed out. CSU beats YSU if the 3rd place team is NKU via their 2-0 season series versus YSU's 1-1. Milwaukee holds a tiebreaker over NKU via their sweep of the Norse, and both sit at 12-6, however, the model above assume a Milwaukee loss to CSU, which would put them a game behind NKU, unless NKU were to drop one of their final 2 games (@det, @oak). So the Vikings need to win out and hope NKU wins their final 2, and they earn the one seed (even though it seems that HL still recognizes co-championships if two teams are tied). CSU fan here. I appreciate the effort it takes to compile these scenarios. I’ve been doing the same updates over on our board. I wish we’d get this from the league office. One slight edit to your work that actually makes a big difference. CSU also split the season series with NKU. If CSU beats Milwaukee and YSU beats IUPUI, the tiebreaker would move down to Oakland, which CSU would lose. CSU needed RMU to move ahead of Oakland, or Oakland and RMU to tie and PFW to move ahead of Detroit. Last night’s results made both scenarios impossible, which means CSU can no longer win a tiebreaker. Crickets from the league is a crying shame, that's for sure. It's a lot to work through, and it's nice to see lots of folks in the mix at the top. It makes for an exciting finish for those teams. |
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Post by wsuraider09 on Feb 25, 2023 15:02:22 GMT -5
We will officially be the 7 seed hosting IUPUI or Green Bay in the first round. (Teams currently tied).
Detroit gets the 8 and will host 9 PFW.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Feb 25, 2023 20:38:03 GMT -5
HL tournament seeds. YSU wins the regular season outright (also gets the auto-NIT bid).
1. YSU
2. UW-MKE
3. CSU
4. NKU
5. OAK
6. RMU
7. WSU
8. DET
9. PFW
10. UW-GB
11. IUPUI
FIRST ROUND MATCHUPS TUESDAY:
6 RMU vs 11 IUPUI
7 WSU vs 10 UW-GB
8 DET vs 9 PFW
SECOND ROUND MATCHUPS:
1 YSU vs Lowest Remaining Seed
2 UW-MKE vs 2nd Lowest Remaining Seed
3 CSU vs Highest Remaining Seed
4 NKU vs 5 OAK
If we win, we're looking at a quarterfinal matchup with Milwaukee or Cleveland State.
I think this sets up really well for us. Much rather face Green Bay over IUPUI, and with a win, the quarterfinal matchups are pretty favorable. We've beat Milwaukee twice already, and CSU is beatable. Add to that, they don't get the crowd support that YSU or NKU get.
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Post by raiders93 on Feb 25, 2023 21:56:37 GMT -5
YSU appears to be on their way to the #1 seed as they're up 16 in Indianapolis. If that holds, IUPUI finishes in last place and will match up with RMU. We get Green Bay, and PFW goes to Detroit. I think that's preferential for us, as I think IUPUI is playing better basketball than Green Bay is. All of that works out for us even better because we'd avoid YSU in the quarterfinals. I'd rather play NKU (closer), Mikwaukee (swept em), or CSU (more beatable and less crowd than YSU). Completely agree. Thanks for the updated info |
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Post by wsuraider09 on Feb 25, 2023 22:06:44 GMT -5
Updated final results:
YSU wins the regular season outright (also gets the auto-NIT bid)
1. YSU
2. UW-MKE
3. CSU
4. NKU
5. OAK
6. RMU
7. WSU
8. DET
9. PFW
10. UW-GB
11. IUPUI
FIRST ROUND MATCHUPS TUESDAY:
6 RMU vs 11 IUPUI
7 WSU vs 10 UW-GB
8 DET vs 9 PFW
SECOND ROUND MATCHUPS:
1 YSU vs Lowest Remaining Seed
2 UW-MKE vs 2nd Lowest Remaining Seed
3 CSU vs Highest Remaining Seed
4 NKU vs 5 OAK
If we win, we're looking at a quarterfinal matchup with Milwaukee or Cleveland State.
I think this sets up really well for us. Much rather face Green Bay over IUPUI, and with a win, the quarterfinal matchups are pretty favorable. We've beat Milwaukee twice already, and CSU is beatable. Add to that, they don't get the crowd support that YSU or NKU get.
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Post by Raider3G on Feb 25, 2023 22:24:46 GMT -5
Updated final results: YSU wins the regular season outright (also gets the auto-NIT bid) 1. YSU 2. UW-MKE 3. CSU 4. NKU 5. OAK 6. RMU 7. WSU 8. DET 9. PFW 10. UW-GB 11. IUPUI FIRST ROUND MATCHUPS TUESDAY: 6 RMU vs 11 IUPUI 7 WSU vs 10 UW-GB 8 DET vs 9 PFW SECOND ROUND MATCHUPS: 1 YSU vs Lowest Remaining Seed 2 UW-MKE vs 2nd Lowest Remaining Seed 3 CSU vs Highest Remaining Seed 4 NKU vs 5 OAK If we win, we're looking at a quarterfinal matchup with Milwaukee or Cleveland State. I think this sets up really well for us. Much rather face Green Bay over IUPUI, and with a win, the quarterfinal matchups are pretty favorable. We've beat Milwaukee twice already, and CSU is beatable. Add to that, they don't get the crowd support that YSU or NKU get. Agree...IUPUI is playing much better. |
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Post by Big D on Feb 26, 2023 9:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by raiders93 on Feb 26, 2023 9:52:51 GMT -5
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Post by keithfromxenia on Feb 26, 2023 15:59:22 GMT -5
123, I would not be shocked if UIPUI upset RMU and I think that would drop us into CSU I think. We need to all pull for Robert morris imo.
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Post by kingnebwsu on Feb 26, 2023 17:18:44 GMT -5
123, I would not be shocked if UIPUI upset RMU and I think that would drop us into CSU I think. We need to all pull for Robert morris imo. Agree with this. It's hard to beat a team three times in one season but I would much rather face UWM instead of Cleveland State. I know WSU will be the underdog in either game but I would feel much better about a UWM matchup instead of CSU. |
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Post by raiders93 on Feb 26, 2023 20:51:23 GMT -5
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Post by Dr J on Feb 27, 2023 21:59:21 GMT -5
We are 20.5 point favorite over UWGB tomorrow night.
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Post by raiders93 on Feb 28, 2023 9:12:26 GMT -5
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Post by 5string on Feb 28, 2023 18:51:42 GMT -5
At the game...terrible turnout, very few students, no pep band (I assume for a more neutral tournament feel?). Very strange.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Feb 28, 2023 19:01:51 GMT -5
Looks like Kinner is filling in for Coach Brown alongside Chris. Hope Coach is alright.
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