Basketball Schedule Released

[gerb]

The mens and womens basketball schedules are completed and posted on the athletic website.
The women's schedule is VERY ambitious. The men's schedule may need some warming up to.


2007-08 Men’s Basketball Schedule
November
5 Monday INDIANAPOLIS (EXHIBITION) 7:00
19 Monday COASTAL CAROLINA 7:00
28 Wednesday MARSHALL 7:00
December
1 Saturday at Marist 7:30
6 Thursday VALPARAISO * 7:00
8 Saturday BUTLER * 7:00
11 Tuesday BRADLEY 7:00
15 Saturday MIAMI TBA
18 Tuesday ST. BONAVENTURE 7:00
22 Saturday at Cal State Fullerton 9:00
Dr. Pepper Classic (Chattanooga, TN)
29-30 Sat.-Sun. Wright State, Chattanooga, Belmont, Murray State TBA
January
3 Thursday at Milwaukee * 8:00
5 Saturday at Green Bay * 8:00
10 Thursday YOUNGSTOWN STATE * 7:00
12 Saturday CLEVELAND STATE * 7:00
17 Thursday at UIC * 8:00
19 Saturday at Loyola * 8:00
26 Saturday at Detroit * 4:00
31 Thursday GREEN BAY * 7:00
February
2 Saturday MILWAUKEE * TBA
4 Monday PRESBYTERIAN COLLEGE 7:00
7 Thursday at Cleveland State * 7:30
9 Saturday at Youngstown State * 7:00
14 Thursday LOYOLA * 8:00
16 Saturday UIC * TBA
20 Wednesday DETROIT * 7:00
23 Saturday at Bracket Buster TBA
28 Thursday at Butler * 7:00
March
1 Saturday at Valparaiso * 8:00
4 Tuesday Horizon League First Round + TBA
7 Friday Horizon League Quarterfi nals # TBA
8 Saturday Horizon League Semifi nals # TBA
11 Tuesday Horizon League Championship ! TBA
HOME GAMES IN BOLD CAPS
All Times Eastern
* Horizon League games # Site of Regular Season Champion
+ Campus Sites ! Highest Remaining Seed


Wright State University
2007-08 Women’s Basketball Schedule
November
9 Friday at Boston College 7:00
12 Monday BALL STATE 7:00
18 Sunday at Eastern Michigan TBA
21 Wednesday at Miami TBA
Cal Poly Tournament (San Luis Obispo, CA)
24-25 Sat.-Sun. Wright State, Cal Poly, North Dakota State, TBA TBA
December
1 Saturday CANISIUS 1:00
8 Saturday at Wake Forest TBA
11 Tuesday at Cincinnati 7:00
16 Sunday at Dayton TBA
20 Thursday EVANSVILLE 7:00
January
3 Thursday MILWAUKEE * 7:00
5 Saturday GREEN BAY * 1:00
12 Saturday at Detroit * TBA
17 Thursday at Youngstown State * 7:00
19 Saturday at Cleveland State * TBA
24 Thursday VALPARAISO * 7:00
26 Saturday BUTLER * 1:00
31 Thursday at UIC * 8:00
February
2 Saturday at Loyola * TBA
9 Saturday DETROIT * 1:00
14 Thursday CLEVELAND STATE * 5:30
16 Saturday YOUNGSTOWN STATE * 1:00
21 Thursday at Butler * 7:00
23 Saturday at Valparaiso * 2:30
28 Thursday LOYOLA * 7:00
March
1 Saturday UIC * 1:00
6 Thursday at Green Bay * 8:00
8 Saturday at Milwaukee * TBA
10 Monday Horizon League First Round + TBA
12 Wednesday Horizon League Quarterfi nals # TBA
14 Friday Horizon League Semifi nals ! TBA
16 Sunday Horizon League Championship ! TBA
HOME GAMES IN BOLD CAPS
All Times Eastern
* Horizon League games # Top Four Seeds Host
+ Hosted by 7th & 8th Seeds ! Highest Remaining Seed

[theleewmowen]

For the women: That Boston College game is going to be tough, and this is the earliest that the team started play (according to wsuraiders.com). They have a tough schedule this year.

For the men: I'm really excited for the Miami game. What league is the Presbyterian College in? Are they even in Division I?

I see a great year for both teams. GO RAIDERS!

[Wolf]

Men's Basketball Schedule Announced

Aug. 14, 2007

The Wright State University men's basketball team has announced its 2007-08 schedule, which features a slate of 15 regular season home games, including Marshall, Bradley, St. Bonaventure and Miami (OH) as well as nine games versus the Horizon League teams.

After an exhibition with Indianapolis on Monday, November 4, the regular season starts against Coastal Carolina on Monday, November 19. The Chanticleers won 15 games a year ago and took the Raiders to double overtime to win 70-63 on their home court. The Raiders will host Marshall of Conference USA on November 28 before playing five of six games at the Nutter Center in early December.

The month of December opens at Marist, which won 25 games last year before bowing out in the second round of the NIT. Horizon League newcomer Valparaiso comes to town for its first taste of League action on December 6 and NCAA Sweet 16 team Butler returns to the Nutter Center for a rematch of last year's HL Final game on December 8.

Bradley, an NIT team a year ago with a 22-13 record, comes to Dayton December 11 and in-state rival Miami (OH) calls on the Raiders December 15. The RedHawks won the MAC Tournament and advanced to the NCAA Tournament. St. Bonaventure rounds out the homestand on December 18 before WSU ends the month at Cal State-Fullerton and at the Dr. Pepper Classic in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

January will see the Raiders return to defense their Horizon League regular-season title with games at Milwaukee, Green Bay, UIC, Loyola and Detroit while Youngstown State, Cleveland State and Green Bay make trips to the Nutter Center.

February will feature two non-conference games, one against new Division I and future Big South Conference member Presbyterian College from Clinton, South Carolina. Presbyterian, which advanced to the Division II tournament last winter, comes to town on February 4. The Raiders will also once again participate in the BracketBuster but this year on the road.

February also includes home games against Milwaukee, UIC, Loyola and Detroit with the season ending with road games at Cleveland State, Youngstown State, Butler and Valparaiso on March 1. The Raiders begin defense of their Horizon League Tournament title starting March 4.

Also, the reception for new season ticket holders at Country Club of the North August 16 has been moved to the Meadowbrook Country Club reception on August 22. For season ticket information, call Darin Cronebach at 775-4242.

wsuraiders.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/081407aac.html

[Wolf]

wsuraider88 said:

What league is the Presbyterian College in? Are they even in Division I?

They are in their first year of the transition phase to Division 1.

[Willie]

I'm not very excited about playing PRESBYTERIAN COLLEGE, but otherwise I like the schedule. There isn't anyone on our schedule we can't beat, so we have a chance at a pretty good record. The downside is we have absolutely zero chance at an at large bid with this schedule.

[Class of '83]

This is a good schedule for a young team. The competition isn't too tough. We play alot of games at home and Gardner will be eligible for all regular season games.

[gerb]

Good points, StatMaster, but from a student's perspective, this isn't the friendliest schedule in the world.
Yes, we have a ton of home games, but half of them, including Butler and Valpo are during break, which means most students will be off campus and attendence will suffer without the rally campaigns all week.
Another weak point is the month of January. We have Youngstown and Cleveland State in the middle of the month and Green Bay two weeks later. That's all for home games - again, not student friendly.
Then there's the Butler trip, which has become a tradition in recent years. In order to do a bus trip, students would have to leave in the middle of mid/late afternoon classes in one of the last weeks of the academic quarter. That's really going to hurt numbers.
Of course we'll have the die hards (I among them) but that wonderful atmosphere we had last year is going to be pretty tough to achieve.

[wsu97]

gerb said:

Good points, StatMaster, but from a student's perspective, this isn't the friendliest schedule in the world.
Yes, we have a ton of home games, but half of them, including Butler and Valpo are during break, which means most students will be off campus and attendence will suffer without the rally campaigns all week.
Another weak point is the month of January. We have Youngstown and Cleveland State in the middle of the month and Green Bay two weeks later. That's all for home games - again, not student friendly.
Then there's the Butler trip, which has become a tradition in recent years. In order to do a bus trip, students would have to leave in the middle of mid/late afternoon classes in one of the last weeks of the academic quarter. That's really going to hurt numbers.
Of course we'll have the die hards (I among them) but that wonderful atmosphere we had last year is going to be pretty tough to achieve.

No offense, but our student body has never been very supportive of our team, so I could care less if this schedule is very student friendly. Our students, in general, don't start coming to games until the end of the season and only if we are playing on TV or we are in the middle of the race for first place. Otherwise, we get 1-200 students that show up for games.

[Tipp City Raider]

I'm disappointed. I was hoping for at least one big name opponent. At least JDG will be available for the entire season.

[gerb]

wsu97 said:

gerb said:

Good points, StatMaster, but from a student's perspective, this isn't the friendliest schedule in the world.
Yes, we have a ton of home games, but half of them, including Butler and Valpo are during break, which means most students will be off campus and attendence will suffer without the rally campaigns all week.
Another weak point is the month of January. We have Youngstown and Cleveland State in the middle of the month and Green Bay two weeks later. That's all for home games - again, not student friendly.
Then there's the Butler trip, which has become a tradition in recent years. In order to do a bus trip, students would have to leave in the middle of mid/late afternoon classes in one of the last weeks of the academic quarter. That's really going to hurt numbers.
Of course we'll have the die hards (I among them) but that wonderful atmosphere we had last year is going to be pretty tough to achieve.

No offense, but our student body has never been very supportive of our team, so I could care less if this schedule is very student friendly. Our students, in general, don't start coming to games until the end of the season and only if we are playing on TV or we are in the middle of the race for first place. Otherwise, we get 1-200 students that show up for games.

I won't deny the numbers you've presented, but part of the reason people don't show up the first half of the season is beacuse the entire first half of the season is break. When you consider the fact many students were shut out of the Butler, Fullerton, and HL tournament games because there weren't enough tickets, even with two+ sections of the Nutter Center reserved, there is a feeling that there's a larger crop of potential serious fans in the student body than ever before. This schedule doesn't exactly nurture that crop. Marketing campaigns around campus by both the administration and students helped to expose/advertise the games to students last year. With big games happening at inoppurtune times, things like the solid week of hype around campus that came before Butler's visit aren't as possible. Obviously we'll try to make lemonade from this, but it's going to be much, MUCH tougher to reach an audience of fans who even can't be there.

All of that aside, not caring if the schedule is student friendly is going against a major purpose of college athletics, don't you think?

[gerb]

Now that I got that little rant overwith, a couple more dates stand out to me as road trip opportunities:
January 17th and 19th could be a nice little trip to Chicago.
The Butler and Valpo away games could mean a tour through Indiana ending up in ChiTown.

[wsu97]

gerb said:

I won't deny the numbers you've presented, but part of the reason people don't show up the first half of the season is because the entire first half of the season is break. When you consider the fact many students were shut out of the Butler, Fullerton, and HL tournament games because there weren't enough tickets, even with two+ sections of the Nutter Center reserved, there is a feeling that there's a larger crop of potential serious fans in the student body than ever before. This schedule doesn't exactly nurture that crop. Marketing campaigns around campus by both the administration and students helped to expose/advertise the games to students last year. With big games happening at inoppurtune times, things like the solid week of hype around campus that came before Butler's visit aren't as possible. Obviously we'll try to make lemonade from this, but it's going to be much, MUCH tougher to reach an audience of fans who even can't be there.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Fall quarter used to run into December up until a few years ago. We usually get to play 2-3 games before fall quarter ends and our students have never shown much interest, regardless to who we are playing. They came out for Butler and Cal State because Cal State was on TV and the Butler game was part of a title race. This isn't a new phenomenon. Our students don't care and it doesn't matter how much you advertise to them, they don't show up very often. Heck, they get free tickets, the school runs bus shuttles from the dorms to the Nutter center and games are advertised all over campus. If they want to come to games, they will. If they don't, they won't.

gerb said:

All of that aside, not caring if the schedule is student friendly is going against a major purpose of college athletics, don't you think?

No. I don't think that is the purpose of college athletics. College athletic was originally designed so students had an outlet for physical activity for the purpose of physical fitness. That has evolved over time to into a business. Regardless to where it has stood over time, the purpose has never been to make it easy for non-student athletes to watch student athletes compete. If they want, they can get off their lazy asses and come out to a game (that they get to attend for free since myself and the rest of the paying customers out there are splitting the bill for them).

[Wolf]

Raiders' schedule may feel familiar
Brownell says this year's basketball team will play 'a lot of teams like us,' more games at home.
By Marc Katz
Staff Writer

Wednesday, August 15, 2007

FAIRBORN — Wright State basketball coach Brad Brownell wanted more home games than road games and a schedule of teams close in ability to his Raiders.

He said the twin goals were so successful, "In a lot of ways, it's like playing two Horizon League schedules. It's filled with a lot of teams like us."

Wright State, coming off dual regular-season and tournament HL championships and an NCAA appearance for the first time in 14 seasons, finished 23-10 overall.

Starters Jordan Pleiman, Vaughn Duggins and Todd Brown return from that team, as well as heavy contributors Scotty Wilson and William Graham.

"We did lose DaShaun Wood, and he's a great player," Brownell said, "but each year is different. You never know how you're going to progress."

Progress this season will be measured against a 10-team league with the addition of Valparaiso. Each of the league teams will be played in a home-and-home format, including Butler, a projected Top 25 team that went to the Sweet Sixteen last season.

The Raiders play six other home games, including:

• Return games from Coastal Carolina (the opener Nov. 19), Marshall, Bradley and St. Bonaventure.

• A visit by Miami on Dec. 15.

• A game with Presbyterian College of Clinton, S.C. — new to Division I, but winners of 20 or more games in each of the last two seasons — on Feb. 4.

In five nonconference road games, Wright State:

• Repays a visit by Marist on Dec. 1, goes to Cal State-Fullerton to fulfill last year's Bracket Buster obligation on Dec. 22 and plays in the Tennessee-Chattanooga Dr. Pepper Tournament Dec. 29-30 (teams have been chosen — Belmont, Murray State, Wright State, UT-Chattanooga — but not pairings).

• The Raiders will play a road Bracket Busters game on Feb. 23.

Brownell said he wanted to stay close to his region, "and not traipse all over the place," to play.

The season begins with an exhibition game vs. Indianapolis on Nov. 5. It ends with the Horizon League tournament beginning March 4 and whatever is earned from that.

www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/college/wsu/2007/08/14/ddn081507wsubb.html

[gerb]

I still don't agree with your philosphy on this, but in the interest of keeping this message board more civil than our other option, let's agree to disagree, shall we?

[Retired Coach]

When all is said and done, our coaches need to put together the most competitive schedule they can. They shouldn't have to worry about appeasing our students or season ticket holders. Their ultimate job is to win games and try to get into the post season.

I think our schedule is a little weak this year. We don't have a good enough schedule to get an at large bid solely on the merits of our schedule. I do like our schedule considering we have a very inexperienced team with 7 new member on our roster.