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Post by rock70 on Dec 24, 2008 12:24:04 GMT -5
Everyone is talking about John David Gardner, Cory Cooperwood, and even Todd Brown with his resurgence in San Juan and rightfully so but I'm starting to think that maybe, just maybe Ronnie T. is starting to come around to the type of player this team needs.
Since he was reinserted into the starting lineup for the San Jaun Tournament his number aren't outstanding but I see them as trending in the right direction.
Over his last three games he has averaged 4.6 ppg and 3.3 rpg in only 18 minutes of play. Like I said his numbers are not overwhelming but I contend that if we can get around 6 points a game and over 4 rebounds in 20 minutes of floor time this would be a asset to the team.
I contend that with JD, Cory, and now Todd being our main scoring threats and hopefully Vaughn returning soon our post player does not need to be a huge scorer but at least a threat and he must rebound and defend the post.
What are your guys thoughts on Ronnie Thomas?
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Post by nybuckeye on Dec 24, 2008 13:04:42 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly and I think his solid play reflects the approach of the team as a whole. Ronnie Thomas is not going to be a dominant guy in any aspect of a basketball game. He is not going to light it up scoring or be a devastating defender or rebounder but what he can do is provide solid minutes as a role player. He needs to contribute a little offensively and be scrappy in the post as a rebounder and defender. He simply needs to do his job when he's on the floor and play within himself. The whole team is kind of like this. We have some guys who can put up big numbers on a given night but we really have a team of role players without any superstars. Duggins and Brown have the potential to play at a higher level than the rest but they aren't going to do it every game. When we win it really has to be a team effort with a lot of guys contributing a little here and there. A lot of teams have the luxury of a great, great scorer (like D. Wood was for us in '07) who can keep them in games. I know it sounds cliché but with this team the whole has to be greater than the sum of its parts. Just like the Wooden quote, "Don't let what you can't do interfere with what you can do."
The ability to get this out of his team is what helps make Brownell a great coach who will be a consistent winner.
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Post by Raider Alumni on Dec 24, 2008 16:26:58 GMT -5
What are your guys thoughts on Ronnie Thomas? I think you are giving Ronnie too much of the credit. It has been a nice group effort from our post players since Vaughn went down. Starting with the UALR game, Gavin averaged 4.7 points and 2.2 rebounds in a little over 15 minutes a game. Cooper has averaged 4.5 points and 2 rebounds in 16 minutes. Scott Grote has averaged 3.7 points and 2.5 rebounds in 13 minutes a game. Combine that with Ronnie's contribution and we are getting good production from our centers and back up posts. |
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Post by Sixth Man on Dec 24, 2008 20:57:06 GMT -5
More than anything else, I see Ronnie and Gavin getting more physical on both ends of the court inside. I think this has freed up Cory to score more.
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Post by Doliboabros on Dec 24, 2008 20:58:23 GMT -5
What are your guys thoughts on Ronnie Thomas? I think you are giving Ronnie too much of the credit. It has been a nice group effort from our post players since Vaughn went down. Starting with the UALR game, Gavin averaged 4.7 points and 2.2 rebounds in a little over 15 minutes a game. Cooper has averaged 4.5 points and 2 rebounds in 16 minutes. Scott Grote has averaged 3.7 points and 2.5 rebounds in 13 minutes a game. Combine that with Ronnie's contribution and we are getting good production from our centers and back up posts. Exactly. |
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Post by rock70 on Dec 25, 2008 9:53:54 GMT -5
More than anything else, I see Ronnie and Gavin getting more physical on both ends of the court inside. I think this has freed up Cory to score more. That is a great point Sixth Man. I was focusing this thread on Ronnie but I do agree with you that Gavin has really picked up his level of play as well. The only reason I focused on Ronnie was early on in the season I felt like Ronnie was the weak link in the chain in the group of Gavin, Cooper, Cory, Scott, & Kyle but I think he has brought his level of play up to on par with some of the other post players. |
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Post by Raider Fanatic on Dec 25, 2008 10:24:17 GMT -5
Ronnie still needs to get his butt under the basket and stop camping out at the 3 point line.
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Post by riceownz2 on Dec 25, 2008 21:15:04 GMT -5
I agree. He needs to learn to play with the basket to his back and rebound the basketball. His production lately is getting better but still tons of room to improve.
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Post by Tipp City Raider on Dec 27, 2008 22:49:59 GMT -5
What's up with the Pressley kid lately? I haven't been able to see many games lately. However, I saw a few of the early games via the web & was impressed with his energy & toughness around the basket. I thought he might might develop into a nice post presence for us. He doesn't play good enough defense for Brownell. He gets out of position too much and gives up easy lay ups. |
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Post by jfarrell04 on Dec 28, 2008 1:20:05 GMT -5
mr.dorsey (do you really have to blitz dorsey to be successful???) says of Ronnie Thomas: "He's never going to be a good player".................what's your definition of "good" mr blitz?
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Post by Nutt House on Dec 28, 2008 14:04:59 GMT -5
Blitz, maybe it's time you start wondering if everyone else is the problem or if it is you. This is the third fight you have been in with three different posters in the last week about stupid stuff. Decisive Schematic Advantage is an appropriate tag line for you. Your posts read just like Charlie Weis and his know it all condescending attitude. Maybe, just maybe, if you didn't make all of your posts so insulting, people wouldn't get so upset with you.
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Post by wsu97 on Dec 28, 2008 23:20:49 GMT -5
Blitz, maybe it's time you start wondering if everyone else is the problem or if it is you. This is the third fight you have been in with three different posters in the last week about stupid stuff. Decisive Schematic Advantage is an appropriate tag line for you. Your posts read just like Charlie Weis and his know it all condescending attitude. Maybe, just maybe, if you didn't make all of your posts so insulting, people wouldn't get so upset with you. Perfect comparison. Blitz = Charlie Cheeseburger. |
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