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Post by RaiderNutt on Mar 22, 2016 14:14:27 GMT -5
USA Article 22 Mar 2016 By Matt Brown Convincing another successful low-major coach to make the jump to Wright State feels a little unlikely, unless the athletic department is prepared to make major investments in the basketball program. Per the USA TODAY Database, Wright State's athletic department is one of the smallest in the Horizon League. Donlon also saw some real success at Wright State, as he lead the Raiders to three 20+ win seasons during his tenure (and to 19 wins in another). Sure, there wasn't an NCAA bid during those years, but in a challenging Horizon League, NCAA or Bust is a daunting goal. For as difficult a gig as Wright State could be (it isn't even the best program in Dayton!), it's probably a better job than say, Youngstown State.
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Post by hhgreen on Mar 22, 2016 16:04:00 GMT -5
Did we get thrown under a bus by that rag.
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Post by twizman on Mar 22, 2016 16:17:25 GMT -5
"Probably" a better job than Youngstown State? Ugh, I think I'll vomit.
We're just an easy target right now. Everyone taking swipes at us.
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Post by RaiderNutt on Mar 22, 2016 16:19:30 GMT -5
An accurate article. They have links to show the spending for D1 programs. I will keep saying this school will have to make a major investment to compete at the level claimed they want to compete at. Bob Grant bio says he cut $1.2 million from the athletic department. Big D claims that was not from basketball, but definitely no investment. I am sure Coach Donlon was hamstringed by BG cost cut cutting ways and no investment in men's basketball team. No pay games against mid major opponents. This program is run on they cheap and I am sucker for my donations.
This school does not want more of the same!
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Post by Big D on Mar 22, 2016 18:04:34 GMT -5
An accurate article. They have links to show the spending for D1 programs. I will keep saying this school will have to make a major investment to compete at the level claimed they want to compete at. Bob Grant bio says he cut $1.2 million from the athletic department. Big D claims that was not from basketball, but definitely no investment. I am sure Coach Donlon was hamstringed by BG cost cut cutting ways and no investment in men's basketball team. No pay games against mid major opponents. This program is run on they cheap and I am sucker for my donations. This school does not want more of the same! --Wright State's men's basketball budget has increased 9 out of the last 10 years. The only time it has gone down was the year Brownell left. The budget decreased 1 year due to the difference between what we paid him vs what we paid Donlon. Go to Wright State's library and look it up. We are a state school and our finances are open to the public and kept at the Dunbar library. --We are no where near the bottom of the HL in basketball budgets. We were third last season and have not finished below 4th in the last 10 years and we have finished as high as second. I don't have access to this year's numbers yet otherwise I would post them. Here are 2014/15 numbers for men's basketball: Detroit $2,507,046 Cleveland State $2,189,220 Wright State $2,029,536 Valparaiso $2,001,213 Milwaukee $1,925,114 UIC $1,839,018 Oakland $1,728,287 Green Bay $1,399,814 Youngstown State $1,323,788 Northern Kentucky $1,172,537 --We didn't have any buy games vs other mid-majors at home last year. No HL team pays to play buy games vs other mid-majors. The entire HL plays 1-3 buy games vs D2/D3/NAIA programs.
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Post by raidergrad98 on Mar 23, 2016 8:07:49 GMT -5
I doubt we'll see any corrections, let alone a retraction. If I've learned anything in the modern internet-based news world, most anyone can say anything without backing any of it up.
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Post by eyappo on Mar 23, 2016 8:26:12 GMT -5
Stupid article, he sounds like a guy who thinks the university was named after Frank Lloyd Wright. When I first sew the thread I wasn’t going to open it because I thought was going to be about filling in the lake or changing mascots.
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Post by RaiderNutt on Mar 23, 2016 18:48:33 GMT -5
In 2011 WSU badletball was $1,990,710. So from 2011 until 2015 the school invested $39K ($2,029,536).
In 2011 WSU was ranked 5th in men's basketball spending.
How can we not be better with that type of commitment? Consistent Top 100 programs average over $4M.
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Post by Big D on Mar 23, 2016 20:07:01 GMT -5
In 2011 WSU badletball was $1,990,710. So from 2011 until 2015 the school invested $39K ($2,029,536). In 2011 WSU was ranked 5th in men's basketball spending. How can we not be better with that type of commitment? Top 100 programs average over $4M. Where is your proof? Some top 100 programs spend over $4 million, but there are many that do not. WSU was a consistent top 100 program under Brownell and never spent anywhere near $4 million. Valpo is a top 100 program and never spends anywhere near $4 million. The MVC and A-10 regularly have top 100 programs that never spend anywhere near $4 million.
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Post by raiders93 on Mar 23, 2016 22:43:33 GMT -5
BG is allegedly requesting $500,000 for the new coach.
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Post by Black PantherU on Mar 23, 2016 23:14:31 GMT -5
An accurate article. They have links to show the spending for D1 programs. I will keep saying this school will have to make a major investment to compete at the level claimed they want to compete at. Bob Grant bio says he cut $1.2 million from the athletic department. Big D claims that was not from basketball, but definitely no investment. I am sure Coach Donlon was hamstringed by BG cost cut cutting ways and no investment in men's basketball team. No pay games against mid major opponents. This program is run on they cheap and I am sucker for my donations. This school does not want more of the same! --Wright State's men's basketball budget has increased 9 out of the last 10 years. The only time it has gone down was the year Brownell left. The budget decreased 1 year due to the difference between what we paid him vs what we paid Donlon. Go to Wright State's library and look it up. We are a state school and our finances are open to the public and kept at the Dunbar library. --We are no where near the bottom of the HL in basketball budgets. We were third last season and have not finished below 4th in the last 10 years and we have finished as high as second. I don't have access to this year's numbers yet otherwise I would post them. Here are 2014/15 numbers for men's basketball: Detroit $2,507,046 Cleveland State $2,189,220 Wright State $2,029,536 Valparaiso $2,001,213 Milwaukee $1,925,114 UIC $1,839,018 Oakland $1,728,287 Green Bay $1,399,814 Youngstown State $1,323,788 Northern Kentucky $1,172,537 --We didn't have any buy games vs other mid-majors at home last year. No HL team pays to play buy games vs other mid-majors. The entire HL plays 1-3 buy games vs D2/D3/NAIA programs. Where do those numbers come from? I saw different ones at ope.ed.gov/athletics Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards
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Post by Big D on Mar 24, 2016 6:08:42 GMT -5
Jimmy, I posted these numbers last summer and copied it from that post. I believe I originally pulled the info from bbstate.com. and compared their numbers to Wright Ststes numbers for accuracy.
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Post by Big D on Mar 24, 2016 6:36:34 GMT -5
BG is allegedly requesting $500,000 for the new coach. As I stated several times now in several different threads, Wright State is going to need to step up their financial commitment to basketball if we are going to achieve the goals Grant has set forth. I haven't heard specifics such as you list above but that wouldn't surprise me if it is true. We don't need a 4 million basketball budget to be a consistent top 100 program but we do need an upgrade over our previous spending. Our top priorities should be coaching budget, recruiting budget, and scheduling budget. There are several other areas that could use improvement but you have to prioritize and I think this is where we get the most bang for our buck. With success on the court, attendance will improve and donations will improve. As we increase our revenue we can address those other budgetary issues.
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Post by ohiopirate on Mar 24, 2016 8:06:32 GMT -5
BG is allegedly requesting $500,000 for the new coach. Ron Hunter could potentially be in play if that's the case. I don't know that $500k gets it done but it at least puts us in the ballbark to get creative.
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Post by raiders93 on Mar 24, 2016 12:31:17 GMT -5
Under the new staff, is there any word on whether there will be an allowance for a strength coach designated to basketball?
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