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Post by Raider Rowdies on Aug 29, 2018 20:33:48 GMT -5
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Post by mrose on Sept 2, 2018 10:55:36 GMT -5
So, play-in games for the automatic qualifiers and more spots for the Power-5 in the field of 32.
Based upon last year's seeding Northern Kentucky would have been one of the auto qualifiers placed into a play-in game. That's how far the Horizon LeCrone has sunk....A potential play-in game in the NIT for the regular season winner. SMH.
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Post by BasketBallJones on Sept 4, 2018 11:25:39 GMT -5
I think this is just the next move for the NCAA to establish a 2 Tier Post Season tournament. The top 6 Conferences will have their own tournament, what we all call "March Madness", and the remaining 26 or so Mid-Major Conferences will have their own tournament. I think this is inevitable, the only outlier being what conferences outside of the P6 make it into March Madness. Possibly the AAC, Mountain West, MVC, or A-10 may get included, but outside of these 3 or 4, I think the rest of the conferences will be left with some crumbs. Last year the MVC was the 8th rated conference in the country based on RPI, but they received only 1 bid. This is called the "Golden Rule"; Those who have the gold make the rules, and the P6 have all the gold.
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Post by mrose on Sept 4, 2018 20:35:18 GMT -5
That's a distinct possibility, BBJ. Though I believe the NCAA (and P-5) likes a Cinderella Story and that plays into the $$$$ CBS/TBS paid for the rights.....That runs thru 2032. But, as you opined, I can see the NCAA Basketball Tourney morphing into the Football model....
The P-5 + ain't going to change their philosophy/outlook until challenged. That puts the onus on people like Grant and Lecrone who've guided their ships into bad waters to change their tactics....They can either change course or go down in history as "leaders" who failed to adapt to a changing sea and went down with the ship.
Edit: Of course you know, neither of those two will go down with the ship. When they bail...umm...announce their retirement (and it will probably be within a year of each other's announcement) then you'll know they think their ship is sunk...
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Post by BasketBallJones on Feb 4, 2019 12:24:19 GMT -5
I just looked up the most recent Bracketology (2/1/19) prediction from Joe Lundardi, and according to him, only 7 conferences currently have more than 1 Bid. I realize that there are about 6 weeks of basketball still to be played, but I doubt these numbers will change much, if any, come Selection Sunday. So we have a system where 25 conferences get a few shekels, and the top 7 get the spoils. We are just cannon fodder for the Big Boys. I believe the NCAA bought out the Postseason-NIT 10-15 years ago for the purpose of eventually having a two tiered tournament. I think we are within a couple years of that happening. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/iteration/216 |
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Post by mrose on Feb 4, 2019 13:41:49 GMT -5
The more I think about, BBJones, the more I rule out the football model or two-tiered tournament. I think the NIT will look similar to the NCAA tourney and be dominated by the major conferences. I think we'll see a few more of the perennial conferences rated 7-10 get spots in the field, but there won't be anymore spots open up for mid-to-low majors. In theory, if chalk holds in the conference tournaments, the most deserving teams via NET, eye test, etc., will be selected from the top 10 or so conferences--leaving the other conferences home watching on ESPN.
Look at last year's tournament. Nearly half (15) the teams in the field were from the top-7 conferences (P-5, AAC, Big East). Only 4 of the top-16 seeds were from lower rated conferences and 2 of them came from conferences typically rated 10-ish or better (Mtn. West, WCC). The average seed for the automatic qualifier was 6.75 and only one of the 12 auto qualifiers was seeded to play an opening round home game (Middle Tenn. RPI 27). Since the NIT incorporated the auto-bid in 2007 having 15 teams from the top-7 conferences is a record number--it ties 2009 with 15. However, the landscape was different in 2009 pre conference expansion and alignments. The year with the next highest number of top-7 conference teams was the year before last (2017) with 14 slots pegged for those programs.
In my mind that goes back to the whole genesis of this thread--NIT expansion. The NCAA/NIT isn't going to expand for the benefit of the likes of IUPUI, Radford, Utah Valley, etc., They'll expand for the likes of Rutgers, Boston College, UConn, Missouri, etc.
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Post by BasketBallJones on Feb 4, 2019 14:33:01 GMT -5
Under a two tiered system that I foresee, the only teams invited to what we now know as March Madness will be from the top 6 or 7 conferences. Then ALL the money stays with the Power Elite Conferences and the teams you mentioned like Rutgers, BC, UConn & Missouri all get in. Why send them off into a second rate postseason tournament when they can get into the main event and share in the money that this event makes?
Plus now the NIT will mean something to the likes of all the Mid-Majors because we would be playing for an actual National Championship, albeit a lesser version. Plus I think the NIT or the NCAAII if you want to call it that would generate a lot more excitement and viewership if winning this tournament meant you could call the winner a National Champion. I consider myself a solid College basketball fan, but I could only name 2 teams who has won the NIT tournament over the last 10 or even 15 years, and that's because I live here in Dayton and I'm a Buckeye fan as well.
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