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Post by mrose on Oct 20, 2017 11:05:04 GMT -5
The B1G announced yesterday they are going to a 20-game conference schedule next year. That's one year ahead of the ACC's already announced 20-game conference schedule. So, 2 of the Power-5 will have approx. 25 games already on their schedule for the upcoming years before they even pickup the phone to schedule for the next season. I get to 25 by their inter-conference challenges, made for TV games, and long-term rivalry/agreements to play other P5 programs.
It will be just a matter of time before the other 3 Power-5 conferences go to 20 and there's talk the Big East will go to 20, but only if they add an 11th member.
That will squeeze out the mid-majors for opportunities to play and win against top 100 RPI programs. It's obvious the end-game by the P5 is to completely eliminate any potential At-Large bids to mid-majors.
Conferences, like the HL, will have to get creative in how they schedule out-of-conference. I can see the WCC, AAC, A-10, and MTN West trying to schedule more inter-conference games with each other in an attempt to keep their RPI's relatively strong. I'm curious how more middling conferences such as the HL, MAC, C-USA, etc. schedule. Also, the low-majors will lose many buy-games. The good news is, the cost to the buyer of a buy-game may drop, but those programs relying on that money will feel the pinch.
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Post by BasketBallJones on Oct 20, 2017 11:35:04 GMT -5
I think the real end game is to eliminate all the conferences outside of the P5 and the Big East from the current NCAA tournament. The NCAA bought out the NIT over 10 years ago, and I think that will eventually be the tournament assigned to the rest of conferences outside of those elite 6. It will be like post season high school tournaments now with divisions. We'll be basically a D2 conference playing for scraps.
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Post by irishdawg on Oct 23, 2017 9:52:58 GMT -5
The B1G announced yesterday they are going to a 20-game conference schedule next year. That's one year ahead of the ACC's already announced 20-game conference schedule. So, 2 of the Power-5 will have approx. 25 games already on their schedule for the upcoming years before they even pickup the phone to schedule for the next season. I get to 25 by their inter-conference challenges, made for TV games, and long-term rivalry/agreements to play other P5 programs. It will be just a matter of time before the other 3 Power-5 conferences go to 20 and there's talk the Big East will go to 20, but only if they add an 11th member. That will squeeze out the mid-majors for opportunities to play and win against top 100 RPI programs. It's obvious the end-game by the P5 is to completely eliminate any potential At-Large bids to mid-majors. Conferences, like the HL, will have to get creative in how they schedule out-of-conference. I can see the WCC, AAC, A-10, and MTN West trying to schedule more inter-conference games with each other in an attempt to keep their RPI's relatively strong. I'm curious how more middling conferences such as the HL, MAC, C-USA, etc. schedule. Also, the low-majors will lose many buy-games. The good news is, the cost to the buyer of a buy-game may drop, but those programs relying on that money will feel the pinch. The Big 12 also can't go to 20 games yet until they add another member as well. Doesn't change your original point though. |
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Post by mrose on Oct 23, 2017 21:01:42 GMT -5
Both the Big East and Big XII could go to 20 game conference schedules as currently configured. It would just be an unbalanced schedule as most P-5 conferences are now. For those conferences, instead of playing a true round-robin they would play 3 games against 2 opponents (1 additional home and 1 additional away). If that protected their RPI that would be better than adding a program to the conference in hope the new member brought additional TV revenue, market, or NCAA distribution.
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Post by wsutommygun on Oct 23, 2017 22:49:30 GMT -5
Financially, the Raiders probably aren't in a position to travel too far to participate in some destination exempt tournaments but, do you think mid-majors might still get a chance to play Power 5 conferences that way?
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Post by mrose on Oct 24, 2017 9:48:20 GMT -5
I don't think so, tommygun. If you look at those MTE destination tournaments closely you'll see a trend that has developed over the past few years. P-5 programs are shunning them more and more. Only the elite 8 team field sites (Maui, Battle 4 Atlantis) are getting multiple P-5 programs. Instead P-5 programs are doing more 4 team events (Legends, Hall of Fame) that are exclusive P-5. Aside from Maui and Battle 4 Atlantis I believe there are only 3 other 8 team tournaments that have more than 1 P-5 program (Puerto Rico Tip-Off, Charleston Classic, and Wooden Legacy--each with 2). In short, there are now more "destination" tournaments without P-5 teams than there are with P-5 programs.
Look at how the preseason NIT was ruined. There used to be 16 teams in a true tournament bracket--4 teams at 4 sites with the winners advancing to Madison Square Garden. Once a Power-5 team was "upset" on their home court they went with a preordained bracket with the P-5 team "advancing" to New York whether they won or not. Now it's just 4 teams selected...This year 2 are P-5, 1 Big East, and 1 "mid-major" that's top-25ish.
Look at this year's "Hall-of-Fame Tip-Off" at Mohegan Sun in Conn. There are 8 teams playing and there are 3 P-5 programs. However, they've split the field into 2 groups and there's no cross-group games. The 3 Power-5 and an A-10 program are in one group. South Alabama, Maine, St. Peter's, and Sacred Heart are in the other group. If I'm South Alabama why the hell would I travel all the way to Conn. to play 3 lousy northeast teams on a "neutral" court?
ESPN owns/organizes (controls) about 1/3 of those tournaments. They're going to select P-5 or other household name programs (e.g., Wichita State, Gonzaga) to ensure viewership or know that they travel well so that their presentation looks good on TV.
Lastly, with an unwillingness by P-5 programs to participate in these events IMHO I think we'll start to have fewer of these tournaments. In fact, this is the last year for one of oldest destination tournaments--The Great Alaska Shootout. Granted it's not an easy place to get to, but neither is Hawaii or the U.S. Virgin Islands, but look at its history and what teams used to participate and look at how the caliber of programs has trended down over the years.
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Post by mrose on Apr 24, 2018 23:01:25 GMT -5
The PAC-12 announced this week they are exploring a 20-game conference season. Further limiting their exposure to "mid-majors." Of course, this is the same group of people who swore to never play a "for-profit" institution (i.e, Grand Canyon) and now that GCU has righted their financial ship and is translating back to a not-for-profit university most of the PAC continues to boycott their men's basketball program. Hmm. Strange how many University (stated) missions and Athletic Department's are so divergent.
I'm curious to see how this all plays out with the NCAA selection process. From what I have seen, through this year's selection process, RPI is still the most weighted component along with the quadrant system. I just don't see how having more .500 games in conference and limited intra-conference games helps a team's sheet.
But I suspect if the PAC can justify a boycott of GCU the NCAA will be able to justify a reason to exclude non P-5's into their tournament.
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Post by mrose on May 27, 2018 15:17:42 GMT -5
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Post by mrose on Jun 4, 2018 16:08:52 GMT -5
Today the Sun Belt announced a new strategic plan for scheduling to improve their top teams RPI. It's very similar to the new concept C-USA announced in late May. Additionally the Sun Belt announced they are withholding 2 dates (home and away) per season for each member to play against peer conference opponents. In their release they mention a scheduling alliance. Hmm. The Sun Belt finished #20 last year. I wonder if they consider the Horizon LeCrone (#26) a peer conference or a low-major?? sunbeltsports.org/news/2018/6/4/mbball-sun-belt-conference-announces-strategic-mens-basketball-plan.aspx |
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Post by mrose on Jun 14, 2018 20:13:43 GMT -5
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Post by ohiopirate on Oct 12, 2018 14:54:36 GMT -5
I'll just stick this here
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Post by mrose on Oct 22, 2018 10:52:33 GMT -5
I'll just stick this here It's a done deal. 4-year agreement starts next year. MWC AD's voted for it last week 10-1. |
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