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Post by jumbojimbo on Feb 1, 2024 22:39:43 GMT -5
Ha ha, ysu guys were already heading to the bench knowing we were going to call that momentum killer to.
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Post by willgrahamsbanked3 on Feb 1, 2024 23:13:34 GMT -5
Wright State misses an opportunity for a statement win. Instead, now 2 games back + the tiebreak of GB & YSU their sights are now set on capturing the 4-seed.
0-4 vs GB & YSU, 7-1 vs the rest of the league. I think YSU wins the HL regular season.
Back-to-back games where the bench accounts for 1 made FG. Another season of limited depth.
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Post by hokieraider on Feb 2, 2024 0:00:18 GMT -5
Can't get stops, and when we do, can't get the rebound. The offensive rebounds of YSU just killed us. This team has to score at a prolific pace for 40 minutes to have any chance against the better teams in our league. At halftime I said we had to get to low to mid 90s to have a chance. Somewhere around 60 we went scoreless for 3-4 minutes and the game was over, as the best we could hope to do was trade baskets with them the rest of the game -- which is exactly what we did until we have to foul in the last 2 minutes.
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Post by oldschooll on Feb 2, 2024 0:08:31 GMT -5
This game was lost before the season even began when Wright State brought in Bo Myers, from some school called Malone, via the transfer portal. Wright State did not need a slow 6 foot 6 inch kid, they needed someone more athletic. It would have been nice if Nagy had found a tall-strong junior or senior in the portal to back-up Braun and Noel. The other fault I have with Nagy since his arrival at Wright State is that he does not develop the bench players during the out-of-conference games. The three freshmen only played a combined 23 minutes tonight and they looked timid again. Wright State starters are playing too many minutes to play consistent basketball over forty minutes against the better teams in the league. Still think Wright State will come in fourth and on any given night they can beat any team in the league. But, coming into this season, we knew this team could be great, and it may have been if the coaching staff had tried a little harder and brought in a quality big, instead of Bo Myers. Bo is probably a nice kid, but he should be playing intramural basketball at a Division 1 school, not taking up a spot on the WSU bench.
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Post by hokieraider on Feb 2, 2024 0:18:24 GMT -5
The said part is I'm not sure if YSU is the best team in the league, and where we fit in. We still haven't faced NKU or Oakland. Oakland may well be better than YSU. I'm still not as impressed with GB, but since we leave 3 point shooters wide open, we don't match up well with them and would probably lose again to them in the tournament. NKU is stout defensively, and other than Warrick they are horrendous offensively -- but somehow those offensive woes will be miraculously cured by playing our defense (or lack thereof) -- either Warrick will set his career high, or the other guys shooting <30% will shoot 60% against us with layups and wide open threes.
So that puts YSU and Oakland at the top, and a second tier of some combination of GB, Milwaukee, NKU, and maybe us and Cleveland St. So WSU could be the 3rd best team in the league (at best), but realistically we're probably between 4th and 6th.
Considering our expectations going into the season, that's atrocious. Not sure if we were all seeing this team thru rose colored glasses, or if its just a matter of this team vastly underperforming, but the truth is while we are as good offensively as we all expected (maybe better), we are significantly worse than expected on defense and on the glass. And I don't see those getting fixed in the next month for any run in the league tourney. Yeah, we might put up 100+ and win one game or upset someone, but no way are we going to run 3 games to win the tourney.
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Post by hokieraider on Feb 2, 2024 0:36:08 GMT -5
This game was lost before the season even began when Wright State brought in Bo Myers, from some school called Malone, via the transfer portal. Wright State did not need a slow 6 foot 6 inch kid, they needed someone more athletic. It would have been nice if Nagy had found a tall-strong junior or senior in the portal to back-up Braun and Noel. The other fault I have with Nagy since his arrival at Wright State is that he does not develop the bench players during the out-of-conference games. The three freshmen only played a combined 23 minutes tonight and they looked timid again. Wright State starters are playing too many minutes to play consistent basketball over forty minutes against the better teams in the league. Still think Wright State will come in fourth and on any given night they can beat any team in the league. But, coming into this season, we knew this team could be great, and it may have been if the coaching staff had tried a little harder and brought in a quality big, instead of Bo Myers. Bo is probably a nice kid, but he should be playing intramural basketball at a Division 1 school, not taking up a spot on the WSU bench. Have we ever determined definitively if Bo Myers is on scholarship or a walk-on? That's never been clear, but the circumstances by which we got him (the woman's team recruited his girlfriend as a transfer from Malone) has always hinted at he's a walk on -- or was planned as a walk on who was (possibly later) given the last scholarship they weren't able to use, kind of like what they did last year for Andy Neff, and another walkon (Gossage, maybe?) several years back. If they had a plan for that scholarship thru the transfer portal, and the player(s) they were going after went elsewhere, then I don't have a problem giving it to someone who is already coming here and will not occupy it past this year. The other half of those circumstances by which we got him has worked out extremely well....in fact, last I checked she's leading the league in scoring, and she is the energizer bunny who creates all the spark for the women's team. |
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Post by oldschooll on Feb 2, 2024 0:39:41 GMT -5
HOKIE SAID: Considering our expectations going into the season, that's atrocious. Not sure if we were all seeing this team thru rose colored glasses, or if its just a matter of this team vastly underperforming, but the truth is while we are as good offensively as we all expected (maybe better), we are significantly worse than expected on defense and on the glass. And I don't see those getting fixed in the next month for any run in the league tourney.
Reply: I agree, the returning players on this team are exactly what I expected them to be, great on offense, bad on defense. But, I don't think the players have underperformed, they are playing as expected. It is the coaches that have underperformed by not adding one or two new impact players to the team to help with our defensive shortcomings. Going into the year, with the players on our roster, the only way for this team to succeed was for the three freshmen to over perform. But, they were not given the opportunity, and that is why our starters are playing tons of minutes. Any blame for this season goes on Nagy and his assistants.
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Post by bballraider on Feb 2, 2024 2:00:13 GMT -5
As most are saying on here. Defensive rebounding is killing us. Our defense isn’t as bad as the stats show, but when you make stops and don’t get the ball back after, it totally negates the defensive effort. Rebounding is a lot of technique and effort. We lack both in rebounding. We shot better than YSU from 2 and 3 tonight, but that doesn’t matter when you give up 19 second chance points. That is why we lost tonight. You can’t expect to lose the rebound total by 12 and basically give up a 13 pt differential in 2nd chance points, that was basically the difference in the final score tonight. Until we learn to rebound we won’t win the big games.
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Post by raiderfan101 on Feb 2, 2024 8:48:04 GMT -5
That did not feel good....
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Post by willgrahamsbanked3 on Feb 2, 2024 11:44:41 GMT -5
Until we learn to rebound we won’t win the big games. I'd say they need to "remember" how to rebound more than "learn" They were only outrebounded 4 times in their first 16 games this season (And one of those was by a single rebound) Recently, WSU has only outrebounded 1 of their last 7 opponents (And that was lowly IUPUI) What changed? |
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Post by raiderfan101 on Feb 2, 2024 12:06:04 GMT -5
Until we learn to rebound we won’t win the big games. I'd say they need to "remember" how to rebound more than "learn" They were only outrebounded 4 times in their first 16 games this season (And one of those was by a single rebound) Recently, WSU has only outrebounded 1 of their last 7 opponents (And that was lowly IUPUI) What changed? I was thinking the same thing...it never seemed like an issue until recently... |
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Post by nuttercenterfan on Feb 2, 2024 12:28:29 GMT -5
This game was lost before the season even began when Wright State brought in Bo Myers, from some school called Malone, via the transfer portal. Wright State did not need a slow 6 foot 6 inch kid, they needed someone more athletic. It would have been nice if Nagy had found a tall-strong junior or senior in the portal to back-up Braun and Noel. The other fault I have with Nagy since his arrival at Wright State is that he does not develop the bench players during the out-of-conference games. The three freshmen only played a combined 23 minutes tonight and they looked timid again. Wright State starters are playing too many minutes to play consistent basketball over forty minutes against the better teams in the league. Still think Wright State will come in fourth and on any given night they can beat any team in the league. But, coming into this season, we knew this team could be great, and it may have been if the coaching staff had tried a little harder and brought in a quality big, instead of Bo Myers. Bo is probably a nice kid, but he should be playing intramural basketball at a Division 1 school, not taking up a spot on the WSU bench. Old school, you get it. Not even to go at one player but this team and staff doesn't recruit kids that care anymore. It shows every game day that other schools have guys that actually want to play hard. It shows in every facet of the game, rebounding, loose balls, actually guarding the opposing team. We have more than a handful of players that I think wouldn't play on any other horizon league team, maybe some not even at the D1 level if they weren't on our sidelines. I think that's insane for this caliber of program. Hope they can turn it around this month. |
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Post by classof94 on Feb 2, 2024 13:55:30 GMT -5
The Penguins came into our house, pushed our team around, taunted our fans, and danced their way off the court. And they did all of that on national TV. Plain and simple!
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Post by wsuairstrike on Feb 2, 2024 17:15:45 GMT -5
That did not feel good.... Yeah it doesn't feel good that we are a mid team in a shit conference. How the hell is YSU kicking our butt the last couple of years. So embarrassing. |
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Post by oldschooll on Feb 3, 2024 3:15:57 GMT -5
That did not feel good.... Yeah it doesn't feel good that we are a mid team in a shit conference. How the hell is YSU kicking our butt the last couple of years. So embarrassing. How is that embarrassing? Wright State lost a tight game to an up and coming school. The better team won. Youngstown has a solid team and they have a good coach. Youngstown may be better than WSU the last few years, but I would take the last twenty years of WSU basketball over any other current Horizon League school. NKU, is a close second, but has not been in the Horizon for half of those years. |
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