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Post by bballraider on Jul 1, 2008 11:36:14 GMT -5
The game I would like is a biggie and only 2 days after the opener with ISU. I know coach doesn't like to play bcs 1 and dones, but with a nationally televised game maybe he would consider this game:
Memphis-Mens Type: Game Dates: 11/14/2008 to 12/31/2008
The University of Memphis is looking for an opponent for a Nationally Televised game for November 17, 2008. This will be the FIRST televised game of the new season. Game will be played at the FED EX FORUM in Memphis. Solid opponent needed. If interested please contact JOHN ROBIC @ 901-678-4587 or via email - jrobic@memphis.edu Contact: john robic, 9016782346 jrobic@memphis.edu Date Posted: 06/17/2008 Last Updated: 06/17/2008
I know this would be a tough way to open up the season, but with early important HL games (UWGB, UWM & CSU) in December, I think the Raiders need to test themselves right out of the gate to find out the weaknesses so that they have time to fix them BEFORE any league games. Last year with the late start, I do not think WSU was as ready as they could have been for Butler and Valpo. Luckily the team got a split, but it would have made a big difference if they could have went 2-0 at home to start HL play.
Not to mention, win or lose, starting with Illinois State and Memphis would give the RPI a big jump too, as both figure to have quite a few wins. And if we come out and win both (very tough to do), we get noticed right away nationally. Memphis will be talented, but they will have a lot of new faces starting, and possible may not be gelling this early in the season. Just my thoughts, with the talent we have returning, I would like to see the team test itself against some good competition next year.
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Post by Glory Days on Jul 1, 2008 18:04:02 GMT -5
I don't see Callipari ever scheduling WSU after we canned his buddy Schilling.
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Post by bballraider on Jul 1, 2008 18:16:22 GMT -5
I don't see Callipari ever scheduling WSU after we canned his buddy Schilling. Good Point, Glory Days, I don't think it would happen either, but that is the type of game I would like to see the Raiders play. Who knows maybe Cal and Robic who seems to be doing the scheduling want to teach WSU a lesson. ;D Playing at Memphis, may be a little bit of over scheduling too, but I would like us step up the scheduling to match the talent of the team this year. The HL is going to be pretty strong this year, and a mediocre schedule will not get us ready for league play.
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Post by Big D on Jul 1, 2008 19:28:34 GMT -5
The basic components to the RPI are how much your own team wins and how much your opponents win. There are other specifics, but that's basically how it works. Your opponent's RPI actually have no direct impact on your own RPI or SOS (although obviously, generally speaking the teams with better RPIs will have won more games). You are missing several key components of the RPI. Your RPI is based on more than just your record and your opponent's record. You also have to factor in your opponent's opponent's records. RPI also has a multiplying factor to account for where games are played. The basic RPI formula is: 25% is your record 50% is your opponent's record 25% is your opponent's opponent's records Neutral court games are then multiplied by 1.0 Home games are multiplied by 0.6 Away games are multiplied by 1.4
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Post by Nutt House on Jul 1, 2008 19:58:55 GMT -5
I agree with bballraider. I think we need to take at least one money game against a BCS program and challenge our guys early in the year. I don't want to see us go to Memphis and get destroyed, but I would like us to play a good BCS team and hopefully watch us be competitive. I think it will do wonders for our confidence.
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Post by raiderrunt on Jul 1, 2008 20:47:08 GMT -5
I generally don't like buy games where we are the sacrificial lamb, but playing Memphis on National TV would be great and I am sure they would pay top dollar.
That would be a great game!
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Post by 3rdwiseman on Jul 2, 2008 14:37:01 GMT -5
The basic components to the RPI are how much your own team wins and how much your opponents win. There are other specifics, but that's basically how it works. Your opponent's RPI actually have no direct impact on your own RPI or SOS (although obviously, generally speaking the teams with better RPIs will have won more games). You are missing several key components of the RPI. Your RPI is based on more than just your record and your opponent's record. You also have to factor in your opponent's opponent's records. RPI also has a multiplying factor to account for where games are played. The basic RPI formula is: 25% is your record 50% is your opponent's record 25% is your opponent's opponent's records Neutral court games are then multiplied by 1.0 Home games are multiplied by 0.6 Away games are multiplied by 1.4 Right, but I was just giving a basic description for those that said they didn't understand, not an exact calculation. I figured just pointing out that understanding how many you win and how many your opponents win would be good enough. FWIW, if any fellow stats geeks want to get it EXACTLY right, it's the opponent's winning percentage that counts, not their record. Basically, 2-0 is caluclated the same as 32-0. 4-1 and 8-2 are the same. both teams are .800. It's not home games, but home wins, that are multiplied by 0.6. Home losses are actually multiplied by 1.4. The inverse is true for away games. That's also only true when plugging in your own record for the first tier of the RPI (25% your own win/loss percentage). If your opponents are 7-2, it doesn't matter how many wins and losses came at home or on the road when calculating your own individual RPI. Lastly, the games that you play against your opponents aren't included in the second and third tiers. Essentiallly, if you play a team that's 10-3 and beat them, their new record is 10-4, but it's still calculated as being 10-3 on your own RPI. It's the same if they beat you. They use an RPI for virtually every team sport, but basketball is the only one that I know of that makes the 0.6 and 1.4 adjustments.
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Post by rock70 on Jul 9, 2008 14:20:11 GMT -5
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Post by theleewmowen on Jul 9, 2008 20:23:07 GMT -5
This is a nice chuck of games for the Raiders. I wish WSU could have the tournaments at the Nutter Center again though, just like the 90's US Air Classic.
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Post by Tipp City Raider on Jul 10, 2008 20:04:21 GMT -5
This is a nice chuck of games for the Raiders. I wish WSU could have the tournaments at the Nutter Center again though, just like the 90's US Air Classic. I don't. The US Air Classic used to suck. We never got any decent teams to come participate in it.
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Post by theleewmowen on Jul 11, 2008 20:59:31 GMT -5
This is a nice chuck of games for the Raiders. I wish WSU could have the tournaments at the Nutter Center again though, just like the 90's US Air Classic. I don't. The US Air Classic used to suck. We never got any decent teams to come participate in it. I guess what I meant was just a tournament at the Nutter Center, minus the non-decent team thing.
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Post by Glory Days on Jul 12, 2008 14:17:51 GMT -5
I agree 88. If Chattanooga could put on a nice two-day, four-team event like the Dr. Pepper Classic last year, there is no reason WSU couldn't do the same. Maybe this is one of the things Bob Grant has in the hopper for future seasons. I can think of one. A sponsor. Chattanooga is able to put on their tournament because they have a great sponsor. Can you think of any company willing to put up around 1/2 million bucks to sponsor a tournament for WSU? I read an article last year while I attended the tournament in Chattanooga and that was how much the sponsors had to put up to hold the event without a tv deal.
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Post by Glory Days on Jul 12, 2008 15:17:00 GMT -5
I'm saying there aren't very many profitable companies in the Dayton area that would be willing to put up 500K to sponsor a tournament for WSU. I'm also saying we don't have many wealthy alumni willing to put up that kind of money either.
Chattanooga has a few important alumni that helped arrange their sponsorship through Dr. Pepper. They aren't more attractive that us, they just have connections.
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Post by Class of '83 on Jul 12, 2008 18:06:05 GMT -5
I've got the answer to your sponsorship problem and a way to get UD on the schedule on a regular basis, but I doubt many people will like it. We can co-host a tournament with UD, calling it something like the Gem City Classic or the Wright Brother's Classic. It could be a 8 team tournament with 4 games played each night. 1/2 the games would be played at the Nutter Center and 1/2 at UD Arena each night. You can have a winners and losers bracket so all 8 teams get to play 4 games that ony count as one against their schedule.
It will never happen, but I think it is a decent idea.
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Post by Raider Rowdies on Jul 12, 2008 18:12:26 GMT -5
I've got the answer to your sponsorship problem and a way to get UD on the schedule on a regular basis, but I doubt many people will like it. We can co-host a tournament with UD, calling it something like the Gem City Classic or the Wright Brother's Classic. It could be a 8 team tournament with 4 games played each night. 1/2 the games would be played at the Nutter Center and 1/2 at UD Arena each night. You can have a winners and losers bracket so all 8 teams get to play 4 games that ony count as one against their schedule. It will never happen, but I think it is a decent idea. I agree it's a nice idea that will never happen.
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