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Post by Retired Coach on Jan 1, 2012 21:56:04 GMT -5
What did the students do back in the D II days? When basketball was played in an old gym or whatnot? Maybe something retro could be cool. Any old cheers or hand signs or traditions anyone can remember? We had a real student section back then. When we were playing at Stebbins high school, we used to car pooled over in the back of a bunch of pick ups in the middle of winter to see our Raiders play. When we were in the PE building, we came to games early and filled up our section. Then we stood and cheered the whole game. Period. We didn't need any of this dance bull shit back when I was a student.
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Post by CincyDrummer on Jan 1, 2012 23:34:17 GMT -5
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Post by raidergrad98 on Jan 2, 2012 0:25:05 GMT -5
I've read and re-read this editorial three times now and I still struggle to understand its intent, however there's some pretty apparent digs at the university and its graduates in my opinion.
I've never read this author before and I don't fully understand their affiliation with the sports desk, let alone the ddn as a whole.
However, I agree with their take on 'the spark.'. It seems juvenile and a waste of time. It appears forced and doesn't make much sense to me. I guess I'd sum up the editorial the same way.
Its almost as if a freshman journalism major flunked out of college and is now writing for the ddn.
Now my only issue lies with a highly circulated local paper publishing such dribble in the first place; do they have editors on staff or is that only an option for real news outlets.
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Post by Raider Country on Jan 2, 2012 10:33:34 GMT -5
Why don't you try to come up with some solutions instead of just whining about everything Bingo. I have read 2 pages worth of students or recent grads complaining about this dance now. There is a simple solution to this problem. If you don't like the dance, don't do it and come up with a better idea to replace it with. I've met Mark Gazdik a few times. I'm sure he would get behind any good idea our students would come up with.
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Post by thatbaldraiderfan on Jan 2, 2012 14:58:23 GMT -5
A great tradition we have is when Andy "Legend" Wincheck goes over to the student section around the middle of the second half and leads the students in a R A I D E R S cheer. Andy has only been to one game this year, due to health, and the cheerleaders escorted Andy over with help from his son. It was very nice. We need older Alumni who will do this when Andy is out. It would be cool if several Alumni would go over to lead the students and show the Raider pride. That I like
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Post by jumbojimbo on Jan 4, 2012 20:24:59 GMT -5
I haven't read the whole thread so I may be repeating.
The problem with the dance is the same problem with a white out. It won't work. It is a mistake to try to do things that you know going in have zero chance of success. It will look stupid. I agree it would be fine if it worked, but it won't. Be realistic.
Traditions we have thrown out with the garbage this year: 1. Get rowdy dance (done once?) 2. Flags with William Tell (huge audience participation) 3. Fight song when we need to pump the crowd up (we now play elevator music when timeout is called with 32 seconds to play?) 4. Time out entertainment that involves the students 5. Half time entertainment
For pete's sake what would it cost to put 10 students on the floor at half time and do musical chairs? or just put them out there with basketballs and let them shoot baskets? Anything is better than watching an empty floor for 20 minutes.
Keep track on Friday of how many little balls are thrown to the student section. Average: 1. Suggestion: throw the balls to the students, the people in the premium seats already have four balls each.
Traditions: those 8-10 people who used to be in section 219 and have moved over near the bench still hold up their hands doing U during random cheers. That was what, 10 years ago we killed that tradition? That's what tradition is about, doing things that work and continuing to do them not throwing them out to leave an empty court sitting there during time outs and half time.
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Post by Raider Pride on Jan 4, 2012 20:49:26 GMT -5
I haven't read the whole thread so I may be repeating. The problem with the dance is the same problem with a white out. It won't work. I don't get where you are coming from in that statement. In the past, the white out and black out nights were both very successful for increasing our attendance for those games. For pete's sake what would it cost to put 10 students on the floor at half time and do musical chairs? Maybe you should go back and read the first page of this thread. The number one complaints of fans about last year WAS stupid half time and time out games. People come to games to watch basketball, not college students making asses out of themselves playing musical chairs or trying to catch rubber chickens with baskets that were launched with a bungie cord. We have a band. They should play at every time out and throughout half time. Our cheerleaders and dance teams should be performing at every time out too.
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Post by riceownz2 on Jan 5, 2012 9:27:42 GMT -5
For halftime entertainment I love watching the local little kid teams who get to scrimmage during halftime. I would love to see more of that.
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Post by wolf41 on Jan 5, 2012 15:04:53 GMT -5
I agree with Raider Up. I'd like to see our Emerald jazz and Cheerleaders on the court whenever possible and at halftime. I also enjoyed the William Tell Overture as it got folks on their feet and clapping.
I hope we forget all the "games" they use to run during time outs. And I don't care if I ever see 6 year olds playing basketball at halftime. I do enjoy any halftime performers we bring into perform.
Go Raiders!
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Post by thatbaldraiderfan on Jan 5, 2012 16:49:09 GMT -5
While I'm not for all the crazy rubber chicken Dayton Dragons type games, I feel like simpler is better. What happened to having a half court shot for a student? Or the contest where students have 30 sec to make baskets from certain areas? Students go nuts over those little yellow balls. Simple is best.
Band. Dance team & cheerleaders. 1 or 2 simple, quick games for students
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Post by getrowdy44 on Jan 5, 2012 17:24:20 GMT -5
Looks like some current WSU students are starting to come across the spark dance video. All I can say is a lot of laughter and embarrassment seemed to be the consensus. I agree with TBRF, just keep things simple like they used to be.
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Post by thatbaldraiderfan on Jan 5, 2012 17:45:52 GMT -5
The spark dance has been pulled for the Butler game
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Post by getrowdy44 on Jan 5, 2012 18:07:06 GMT -5
The spark dance has been pulled for the Butler game Smart decision.
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Post by raidergrad98 on Jan 5, 2012 20:32:43 GMT -5
I think it's for the best. I agree its a good decision.
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Post by raiderryan on Jan 5, 2012 21:48:14 GMT -5
I agree that the dance would be more embarrassing than productive. However I think we're closer to a solution than people might think. We've embraced the whole "Raider UP' thing correct? Well its not exactly original (Boiler up @ Purdue). What would be wrong with doing something that plays into this type of situation.
Students could sit, and softly say "raider up!"(Clap-clap).."raider-up" (clap-clap)...as some music piping through the speakers gets louder....they start to stand up and do the same. "Raider-UP" (clap-clap) Raider-UP" (clap-clap) As the music gets EVEN LOUDER they start to JUMP up as they YELL "RAIDER-UP"(clap-clap) "RAIDER-UP" (clap-clap) untill just wild music blares, intense Raider-up graphics play on our new scoreboard and Loud Screaming and jumping ensues....that sounds more like something that could evolve into a Nutt-house wide hysteria.
I'm not saying it works, or if its even a good idea, but lets find some solutions if this is the direction they want to go.
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