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Post by bleedgreenngold on Jan 27, 2013 20:54:36 GMT -5
Here is a link to my post saying that Reggie, Dixon, Young, Darling, Sledge should start. wrightstate.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=2603&page=2#60423This post dates all the way back to the Clev St game. But I thought to myself, if it isnt broke dont try to fix it. But after watching the past two games I believe it may be broke and it is time for a rotation mix up. I do not still believe Dixon should start. He has the best ability on the team in terms of getting to the paint and creating a shot for himself, but sometimes he tries to force things offensively and puts up a bad shot. Griffin has showed me alot since that last post and proven to me that, even though he is a defense first guy, he can be an offensive threat and is starting to shoot better from outside. Vest, however, has not. I respect what his father did for the program when he played, but we have to remember that Vest didn't even get a scholarship to come here his freshman year. He did not garner interest from any D1 schools. Lets face it, if it weren't for his dad and location of where he played high school he would not have a scholarship, or maybe not even be on this team. Young fully deserves to start over him. I agree with 6th man and don't buy the theory that Young would not be able to stay on the floor because he fouls too much. He just needs to be given a chance and is trying to prove that he deserves more PT and trying to do too much on defense. The guy would be playing Big 10 basketball right now if it werent for a coaching change at Nebraska, play him for Christ sake. Starting lineup should be Reggie, Griffin, Young, Darling, Sledge. I also am afraid that Bobo will be transferring out next season as well. As much as he is sitting this year, he probably is beginning to believe that if BD remains coach, he will be playing behind Reggie the majority of his eligiblity and not see respectable minutes until his Senior year when Reggie is gone. This would be a huge loss for our program and I feel bad for the kid. We cant lose a talent that had offers from the likes of Kansas State and Illinois because he didnt see the floor enough. That would just be plain stupid. The only thing that I could see Bramanti being better than Bobo at is team defense, and that is what BD is about. But Bobo is more athletic and would matchup better against talented teams like Valpo and Detoit and good teams outside of the HL. That is why he spelled Reggie in the UC game at the 1 and not Bramanti. I do not believe Roddy will transfer. He was setback with injuries this preseason, nothing the staff could do about that. I will be at the Detroit game and hope we can right this ship. Go Raiders. |
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Post by bleedgreenngold on Jan 27, 2013 20:58:54 GMT -5
And btw.. If UIC was playing such good overall team defense that the only shots we could get were around the 3 point arc, Yoho should have been playing way more than he did last night.
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Post by Retired Coach on Jan 27, 2013 21:00:54 GMT -5
This entire discussion is a waste of time. I think we all know Donlon enough by now to know that he isn't going to change anything. In fact, if you get a couple thousand fans to sign a petition asking him to start 2 guards and 3 forwards I think the stubborn SOB would start 4 guards. That's Billy in a nutshell. He doesn't care what anyone else thinks. His self confidence is one of his biggest strengths and biggest weaknesses as a coach. His father might be the only person on his staff that he has actually listened to the last 3 years.
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Post by Big D on Jan 27, 2013 21:12:37 GMT -5
Vest, however, has not. I respect what his father did for the program when he played, but we have to remember that Vest didn't even get a scholarship to come here his freshman year. He did not garner interest from any D1 schools. Lets face it, if it weren't for his dad and location of where he played high school he would not have a scholarship, or maybe not even be on this team. That simply is not true. Matt Vest committed to WSU before his senior year in high school and agreed to walk on his first year at WSU so that we could sign another post player in that class. He had a great senior year and received several scholarship offers. He stuck by his commitment to WSU and was willing to walk on even though he had offers because he grew up wanting to be a Raider like his father. There is no reason for anyone who says they are a Raider fan to take shots at our players like this. Every single player on our roster accepted a scholarship to Wright State over offers to other D1 schools. They all bust their hump at practice and in games representing Wright State. It is fine if you don't think player "A" should be starting or that player "B" isn't getting enough playing time, but we need all of the players on this team to contribute in order for us to be successful. None of them deserve the disrespect they get on this site from people that say they are Raider fans. |
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Post by wolf41 on Jan 28, 2013 12:20:46 GMT -5
I was surprised, maybe shocked, that Coach actually had some tall line-ups on the court at times. That may have helped us break even on rebounding.
I agree, naturally, with those who think Young should be starting. He is shooting 53% from the field to Matt's 42%, yet Matt is playing 10 minutes more per game. Young also has better %s from the arc and the line. Making Young a starter could very well allow him to dial back on his aggressive play which leads to foul trouble. I think he gives us better offensive skills and doesn't hurt our defensive effort. Let him play 30 minute or more per game in place of Vest. Like I said before, I like Vest, but he could be a valuable 6th man.
I like Reggie, but the Coach needs to dial him back. He throws up some of the worst shots I've ever seen a college player take. In some cases it is like watching a women's game with some of his poor shot selection. Right now he is shooting under 40% from the field, but leads the team by far in FGA. I would guess that if he had these stats and was a big man he wouldn't be on the court. Oddly enough, Dixon shoots about the same % from the field and is second in FGAs. One question is, does the Coach EVER read the stats sheet? I like Bramanti as well, but I'd love to see more of Drummond. He had some serious interest from BCS schools, so there must be talent in him. I know Brownell recommended Reggie, but does that mean he has to start?
Finally, I like to see us use a variety of defenses during a game based upon the strengths of the opponents. Make them have to adjust during the games. Preparing to play WSU must be the easiest game in the HL for the opposing Coach. Put up a zone on defense and get ready to rebound. Go on offense and be ready to go against man-to-man coverage.
After next year we will lose 5 seniors, three of them big men, 4 if you count Vest at 6'5". If I'm counting right we have offered 'ships to 11 players. One of them is a big man. I don't know how these things work, but that seems to be "skewed". That means that in the '14-'15 season we would have Sledge, Yoho, and maybe one new big man. Are we planning to have a 4 guard starting line up?
Is there a coach at WSU that coaches the big men? Does he have any input on recruiting?
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Post by Raider Fanatic on Jan 28, 2013 12:34:14 GMT -5
After next year we will lose 5 seniors, three of them big men, 4 if you count Vest at 6'5". If I'm counting right we have offered 'ships to 11 players. One of them is a big man. I don't know how these things work, but that seems to be "skewed". That means that in the '14-'15 season we would have Sledge, Yoho, and maybe one new big man. Are we planning to have a 4 guard starting line up? We have 2 scholarship offers to players Donlon considers interior players: David Bell and Riley Norris. The bigger schools recruiting Norris see him as a SF. Donlon therefor sees him as a PF.  Besides Sledge and Yoho, we will also have 6-7 Stephen Davis available for the 2014/15 season. That being said, I think most Raider fans would agree that we need more interior players and need to put much more effort into recruiting them. |
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Post by Retired Coach on Jan 28, 2013 12:40:15 GMT -5
We only have 2 post players now: Pacher and Sledge. We unfortunatley force Darling, Young, and Yoho to play inside when they are clearly not post up type guys. They are SFs. Stephen Davis is a SF.
Donlon should have a minimum of 4 Taveras Sledge type players on his roster. Not SFs forced to bang with the big boys, but 6-8+ filled out men that want to play inside. If he did he could still have 9 guards for his 3 guard system and we would have enough size and depth to compete on the inside.
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Post by wolf41 on Jan 28, 2013 12:41:40 GMT -5
Yes, I forgot about Davis and after I posted here I went to recruiting and saw that yesterday we offered Riley Norris from Alabama who is 6'7" and 190lbs. I think we should always have at least 6, maybe 7, big men on the roster. Prefereably some of them should look like they've never missed a meal.
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Post by Retired Coach on Jan 28, 2013 12:43:07 GMT -5
Yes, I forgot about Davis and after I posted here I went to recruiting and saw that yesterday we offered Riley Norris from Alabama who is 6'7" and 190lbs. I think we should always have at least 6, maybe 7, big men on the roster. Prefereably some of them should look like they've never missed a meal. I completely agree, but unfortunately our interior players look like we starve them. |
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Post by wsuraider09 on Jan 28, 2013 12:48:10 GMT -5
Totally agree. I can't remember the last big we had that we had that is really a d1 big guy. We seem to always have great guard play, and seem to recruit sub-par 4/5 guys, and put them down low. I'm sure we just don't have the interest or recruiting power to reel in a 6'11 240+ guy...we will just have to continue to settle for average at best PFs playing the 5...I don't see this changing unfortunately. Those guys are so few and far between and they end up going to p6 conferences. I'm not seasoned as some of you guys here, but list our 'best players' since like 05....D-wood, Duggins, Todd Brown, J-Mays for one year, N'gai, maybe put Troy Tabler in the conversation.....granted that's just my opinion. No big guys. Look back at our bigs...Ronnie Thomas, Cooperwood, Darkwa, Mpondo,...nothing special. You MIGHT argue that Pleiman was the best big we've had in the last 10 years...and, as much as I like him, that's not saying much.
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Post by Fastbreak on Jan 28, 2013 12:57:31 GMT -5
I have never understood our big man recruiting. If you go to the recruiting board, we actually are recruiting several good big men for 2014, but have only offered 2 of them scholarships and both of those guys already have much better offers than WSU. We tend to offer several guards even though we only have a few opennings for guards. Why don't we do the same for big men?
Here are the guys we are looking at for 2014 but have not yet offered:
Justin Johnson (6-7, 230 lbs) already has offers from Eastern Kentucky, Indiana State, Southern Miss, Northern Kentucky, and Western Kentucky.
Mack Mercer (6-8, 190 lb) already has offers from Boston College, Kent State, Rice, Vermont, Ball State, Miami OH, and Indiana State.
Amanze Egekeze (6-7, 195 lb) already has offers from DePaul, Loyola, Indiana State, and Toledo.
Max Rothschild (6-8, 205 lb) already has offers from Northern Illinois, Chicago State, and UIC
Roderick Mills (6-7, 185 lb) already has scholarship offers from Miami, Belmont and Kennesaw State
Gavin Skelly (6-8, 205 lb) already has offers from Cleveland State, Akron, Toledo, Kent State, Ohio U, and Miami
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Post by Fastbreak on Jan 28, 2013 13:01:35 GMT -5
Totally agree. I can't remember the last big we had that we had that is really a d1 big guy. We seem to always have great guard play, and seem to recruit sub-par 4/5 guys, and put them down low. I'm sure we just don't have the interest or recruiting power to reel in a 6'11 240+ guy...we will just have to continue to settle for average at best PFs playing the 5...I don't see this changing unfortunately. Those guys are so few and far between and they end up going to p6 conferences. I'm not seasoned as some of you guys here, but list our 'best players' since like 05....D-wood, Duggins, Todd Brown, J-Mays for one year, N'gai, maybe put Troy Tabler in the conversation.....granted that's just my opinion. No big guys. Look back at our bigs...Ronnie Thomas, Cooperwood, Darkwa, Mpondo,...nothing special. You MIGHT argue that Pleiman was the best big we've had in the last 10 years...and, as much as I like him, that's not saying much. If we had a few more Cory Cooperwoods on our team we would be set. He was a rebounding machine. His only problem was that he had no help inside. If we would have paired him with Sledge we would have had something special. |
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Post by wolf41 on Jan 28, 2013 16:44:47 GMT -5
Cooperwood, Scottie Wilson, Seth Doliboa, Vern Holland, Pleiman, DaShaun Wood, Drew Burleson, and Todd Brown were all decent rebounders for us over the past 10 years, but even Wood, Brown, and Hollins were really guards. Our top 5 rebounders all played before 1994,and 3 of them played in the 1970s.
It seems that all the better big men go to the top conferences where they get major minutes. Some of the mid-majors get some decent big men. But when you get into the NCAA, you'd better be able to put 3 big men with game experience on the court or a Don May type of player that plays like a big man.
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Post by wsuraider09 on Jan 28, 2013 17:06:10 GMT -5
It sure stinks...we aren't going to ever be able to make any real noise with good bigs. Looks at recent MM success...Gonzaga? Kelly Olynyk is an absolute beast...Butler and Matt Howard a few years back...Look at a team like Wichita State...their 2 top scorers are their 2 forwards who average 13 and 15 points. You cannot be a consistent team with a bunch of guards who shoot 3s. We've seen it, live by it, die by it...more the latter as of late. Not to hit it closer to home, but Valpo's top scorers are Van Wijk and Broekoff (17 and 13) and they have been legit the last couple of years with those 2 on their team. I feel like we keep dumping our resources into guards and then scraping together whatever is left for bigs. It's frustrated me over the years watching teams on TV and a guy get put back slams that are just insane...and honestly not being able to remember the last time we had a put back slam.
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Post by OG Raiderfan on Feb 3, 2013 14:53:03 GMT -5
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