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Post by mrose on Mar 15, 2011 12:08:25 GMT -5
Isn't it a bit of a dichotomy to have the women pay to play yet it is beneath the men's team to do so?
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Post by mrose on Mar 9, 2011 16:58:52 GMT -5
Watching that game last night reminded me of a Big 10 game. Large excited crowd--great student section--and physical game. Both Butler and Milwakee players have the physical attributes of Big 10 athletes too. We really need to bulk up over the summer.
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Post by mrose on Mar 9, 2011 10:27:25 GMT -5
Any truth to the rumor that out of habit Brownell applied for the Texas Tech--BCS--opening?
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Post by mrose on Feb 28, 2011 19:50:00 GMT -5
FWIW, Butler was #35 in today's AP poll, but didn't receive votes in the USA Today/ESPN coaches poll. Cleveland State was #32 in the USA Today/ESPN Coachs poll, but didn't receive votes from the AP writers.
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Post by mrose on Jan 24, 2011 18:59:51 GMT -5
Looks like the Wisconsin schools did some damage to Horizon League's chance of possible 2 NCAA bids (one via At-Large) as Butler tumbled 15 spots and Valpo dropped 9. Both teams would have dropped a bit from last week, but not to the degree of yesterday's losses inflicted. For Horizon to get two teams in now looks like CSU has to run regular season league table (and win away bracket buster??) then be upet in in Horizon tourney final. Through yesterday Wright State #100. www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1
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Post by mrose on Jan 21, 2011 21:47:58 GMT -5
These NCAA RPI's are thru last Sunday. The next release of official RPI's, early next week, will include both the YSU game and hopefully a CSU win....
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Post by mrose on Jan 21, 2011 21:27:28 GMT -5
Jazzfan, ratings aren't ratings. If all RPI sites use the same formula explain how Butler is #46 in Sagarin's ELO_CHESS (RPI) www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkt1011.htm #26 in Real Time realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html #45 in Pomroy's www.kenpom.com/ and #26 in Nolan's warrennolan.com/basketball/2011/rpi all after yesterday's games. Obviously 2 calculations use similar formulas yet differnent from the other two similar formulas. Fluctuations continuoulsy occur and good road victories help. But as more games are played (collectivley) those fluctuations are smoothed out. Butler was #26 in two of today's RPI's, this week's NCAA ratings, and last week's NCAA ratings. Beating a sub 200 Detroit team and losing to a 100-ish team on the road didn't affect their ratings. Valpo beat two teams on the road last week, with much better RPI's than YSU, and moved up 10 spots (NCAA) to 48...Today they are #45 in 3 of the "current" services. Trust me, WSU didn't move up 8 spots, in the offical ratings, last night by beating Youngstown State. And yes, I know .75% comes from either our opponents or their opponent's win-losses, but by now those games start to wash each other out.
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Post by mrose on Jan 21, 2011 20:19:43 GMT -5
But, bballraider, at the end of the day, there is only ONE RPI that counts. It is the NCAA's. It is that RPI that is used in selecting NCAA (at-large) and NIT participants and the seeding of those teams. Because of a claim (valid) the NCAA wasn't transparent about their process a few years ago they decided to start releasing their RPI weekly beginining in January of each season.
What I find interesting is the debate about playing non Div I teams. Don't get me wrong, I understand the logic and how it can "help" the RPI. But, don't you find it strange the NCAA in their offical RPI has the record played against non D1 teams in their rankings? No other RPI rankings does that. Do you think if the last invite to the NIT comes down to two teams with nearly identical RPI's they'll give the nod to the team that played all D1 schools?
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Post by mrose on Jan 21, 2011 14:13:02 GMT -5
BasketballJones, yes DirecTV has SportsTime Ohio. ch. 662.
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Post by mrose on Jan 21, 2011 14:09:47 GMT -5
Raider Grad, that win didn't put us in the official top-100. Through Sunday's game WSU was #106. Beating YSU (#243) won't move the Raiders up but a fraction (if that) only because it was a road game. Now, if we can get a win vs. a top 30 team (CSU #27) that will surely move us up into the top-100. www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1
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Post by mrose on Jan 13, 2011 13:53:23 GMT -5
I understand. I forgot about St Mary's participating in BB this year. I wasn't very clear in articulating my thought. When the decision was made to allow Butler play Duke that was the opportunity to improve RPI--It was about as close to a guarantee as you can get to play a top-20 RPI team. If past history is any indication, there would have been a limited number of Bracket Buster teams Butler could've possibly been matched with having RPI's 60 or better. Currently SMC, ODU, Drexel, JMU, Wichita State, and Long Beach State.
When the Horizon League seized the chance to play Duke I imagine they didn't assume a loss, but an opportunity to win. And, if they chose not to play Duke how could they have assumed Butler winning a road Bracket Buster game? I don't know how people could've assumed one outcome over the other when deciding the schedule last summer. The only certainty, and I use that term loosely, was that Duke would be a better RPI boosting opportunity. In addition, expectations for UIC this year were low--and with the exception of beating Illinois and Rhode Island, they're living down to those expectations. Expectations for Akron were middling. Best case scenario for the Horizon League was to have UIC lock-up that MAC team on the schedule rather than forgo the Butler/Duke game and have UIC potentionally paired with another sub-200 team.
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Post by mrose on Jan 13, 2011 0:45:10 GMT -5
I question point #2. First of all, what's the definition of a decent basketball team? Second, my understanding of the RPI is it measures the strength of schedule and how a team does against that schedule. The basic formula is 25% winning percentage, 50% opponents' winning percentage, and 25% opponents' opponents' winning percentage.
Duke is #8 in the official RPI (before their loss) and currently 15-1. The next closest team that Butler possibly could've played, if in Bracket Busters, is ODU currently at #22 (12-3). After that the next highest team is Utah State (14-2) at #42. Unless the wheels fall off the wagon for Duke and the ACC then it will help Butler's and, to a lesser degree, Horizon League team's RPI. Both the CAA and WAC are out of the top 10 conferences as far as RPI goes, which will eventually erode ODU's and Utah State's RPI. In fact, even if ODU were to run the table in the CAA it'll be hard for them to keep their status in the top 25. The CAA already has 3 teams with double-digit losses and ODU has 3 more games with those teams. Only the Atlantic Sun, MAAC, MAC, MEAC, Northeast, Southern, Sun Belt, and SWAC conferences have more teams with double-digit losses.
The same holds true for UIC. If they were in the Bracket Busters this year there's no way they would have been matched up against #95 Akron (9-6). They would have probably been matched with a weak team from a conference weaker than the MAC.
Maybe the process in which the Horizon League handled Butler's request was flawed, but a bird-in-the-hand is better than two-in-the-bush.
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Post by mrose on Jan 12, 2011 18:52:51 GMT -5
But doesn't a rising tide lift all boats? Basically Butler is the face of the Horizon League. Granted, that TV exposure helped BU much more than anyother school, but playing Duke a competitive game showed people it wasn't a fluke for a Horizon team to play at that level. Worst case it marginally helps the RPI. If Butler didn't play that date they would be in Bracket Busters and the team they would be paired with probably wouldn't have an RPI nearly as good as Duke. And, as bad as UIC is they would have been paired with another terrible team, not a respectable team like Akron, who they got to fill in that date.
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Post by mrose on Jan 6, 2011 14:26:11 GMT -5
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Post by mrose on Jan 6, 2011 9:51:26 GMT -5
Not sure what happened to the students in the mid -90's, but in the early 90's there were many more than 20 -30 students at the games. I was there. The student section was in the riser seats....which currently isn't in use.
I didn't know WONE wasn't streaming games! They used to, why did they stop?
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