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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 11, 2024 17:17:08 GMT -5
Is Nagy a candidate for these MVC openings in Illinois? nobody wants old school Nagy lol Yeah I agree. He'd probably need consecutive tournament appearances.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 9, 2024 20:32:23 GMT -5
I don't disagree at all about all the talent we had that transferred. We can get the talent, we can even develop it, but we can't seem to win. That's all that matters when you're in a low tier conference. Edited Note: I believe this is Nagy's final year on his contract. I don't think there's a way we could give him another extension if he can't win next season. There's no way we could afford a buy out of 600k on X years. I don't see Nagy signing on for just one more year too. Coaches would need a guaranteed contract with more then just one year. They'd be stupid not to do that. Do you mean this most recently completed season was his last or this upcoming year (2024-2025). Last reported they added years in 2018 to end through 2023....they must have extended it again a few years somewhere along the way (I thought he had two more years left after this year). Ecb123 - I thought this upcoming year (next year in my mind since the ncaa tournament is not concluded), 24-25, is his last year. I'm not 100% but thought in past discussions, this is it. They'll let him finish out regardless since we can't afford a buy out.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 9, 2024 19:00:42 GMT -5
Jerry I hear what you're saying but being 11th in the big 12 is like a guaranteed horizon league regular season win and sleep walking to win by 20 plus in the hl championship. It's not comparable, imo. The other teams you mentioned that left the hl, I understand what you're saying too. But we aren't lighting this crap league on fire. So yeah I'd much rather leave and finish near the bottom in decent conference, then finish 2-6 in the HL. Imo, not winning the HL is just as good as finishing in last place. No one in the country cares what team finished 2nd place in the HL. Also if we somehow were able to get out of the HL, it'd more then likely benefit our baseball team.
I don't disagree at all about all the talent we had that transferred. We can get the talent, we can even develop it, but we can't seem to win. That's all that matters when you're in a low tier conference.
Edited Note: I believe this is Nagy's final year on his contract. I don't think there's a way we could give him another extension if he can't win next season. There's no way we could afford a buy out of 600k on X years. I don't see Nagy signing on for just one more year too. Coaches would need a guaranteed contract with more then just one year. They'd be stupid not to do that.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 9, 2024 18:40:18 GMT -5
big d, I hope you are having a good day. I remember a little pg, first name Reggie,who as a freshman had more turnovers than assists and probably averaged 6ppg. He got a lot of criticism but…he was a freshman. He went on to develop into a pretty decent pg. Was it Al McGuire who said the only good thing about freshmen is they become sophomores. If a mid major is going to have success player development is the key. without it we go nowhere. I am not sure our coach can change but the transfer portal may lead to player losses if we continue redshirting freshmen. If we are recruiting decent players they may just pack up and go if they spend a season on the bench. the environment of college sports has changed. If a coach cannot change with it he will have serious problems being competitive. Keith that pg was not very good. At least we are away from those years. Now if only Nagy could win with a much more talented offense.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 9, 2024 11:02:07 GMT -5
Speaking of being critical, I don't understand all the Nagy hate on here. Lot to unpack here. I don't think anyone hates him. He's showed that he has vastly underperformed with a 600k salary and missed expectations with only 2 tournament wins. We have the best fans and facilities in the league. We have one of the better locations outside of Milwaukee. We have had some great talent during his tenure. But 2 tournament wins is not good enough. Barely above .500 with a loss to a mid nku in the quarter finals is not good enough. Last year you could give him a small pass but this year was just embarrassing. He hardly had any roster turnover. What's the point of keeping the roster together when other teams and fill in holes and win just as much. We pretty much wasted the career one of our best all time players with Trey Calvin. Do you really think we will have someone like that again? Nagy is just exposing himself that he's not living up to expectations and is not a great coach. He's shown time and time that he's horrible at clock management. He never calls one when a run is going or he calls a dumb one when we have momentum or the other team is out of them so we help them develop a play. We can't ever seem to come up with a successful play out of a time out. We always seem to make the dumbest fouls at the end of games. We also seem to have the same people season after season that foul someone shooting a 3. These are disturbing trends during his tenure that have not gotten any better. Morale victories are also useless for this team. In the covid season, twice we were beat in almost the same way. Allowing a team to drive down the court with no resistance to score the game winning basket. You could say on the first one "oh that was bad. Okay let's prepare for something similar so that doesn't happen again". 2 games later, the same thing happened. I can go on and on but I'll end with the worst blunder. That covid year, that was the best roster WSU ever had. We still didn't finish 1st in the crap HL. We play a terrible UMW team and have one of the worst collapses in college basketball history. We can't even learn from that. We blew so many leads this year and blew another large lead, at home, in the HL, to another mid team. So yeah, I don't think people hate Nagy, but sure can say he is exposing himself as an overpaid and underachieving coach. Yes finding another head coach will be difficult. But so what? Are we suppose to just accept our fate of being a mid team in a low tier conference? If all the other shit schools in our league can turn it around, why can't we?
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 7, 2024 22:56:34 GMT -5
It's not that they lost its how. Up 17-2. Up 28-14. Up 35-21. Up the with NKU on the line, anybody with the ability to count knows they have to try to miss the second and they cant get the rebound. You get that rebound and you have a great chance to win the league. Microcosm of the season. Additionally, coaching malpractice to not move Calvin off Warrick once Tre had 3 fouls. I could MAYBE understand IF Calvin was locking him up...but Warrick had 39 Saturday and 35 tonight. We had the roster to win this league, we led the league in attendance again, its not hard to get kids into school, best facilities in the league, NIL money to keep Tre and bring back Tanner...what other advantages did Nagy not piss away? He's safe though because the standard at WSU is don't lose the championship game. Can't lose in the finals if you don't make it. If I'm not mistaken, Warrick entered the 2nd half with 8 points. He's all they had. This program is fine with the standard because we can't afford a buyout or a better option. This team is seriously just like the steelers and passing away talent.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 7, 2024 22:53:00 GMT -5
Let's go! I'm good with Oakland winning. They should win this league is complete trash and they might have the best shot for an upset. I’d be better with WSU winning. Zero excuses this year. Nagy needs to be given an ultimatum. Donlon lost his job for a reason and Nagy should be held to the same standard. Well yeah of course, friend. I don't disagree at all. I really hope I'm wrong but I don't see how next year is going to be any better. The freshmen look great, but history shows us Nagy hardly plays freshmen. It's also asking way too much out of newly d1 players to carry this team on their back. Not sure what can save this program but it looks bleak imo. Another 4/5 place finish in one of the worst conferences in the country. We keep getting older and this team keeps their mid status.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 7, 2024 22:46:38 GMT -5
ThIs team is the softest yet best Wright state basketball team ever. Earned a lot of promise, underachieved. Sorry. Well said. Pretty sad for this program too.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 7, 2024 22:39:32 GMT -5
I'm not your buddy guy! Damn. That sucks. Well I guess I'll put some money on nku winning. Yay I ain’t yo guy, friend. Let's go! I'm good with Oakland winning. They should win this league is complete trash and they might have the best shot for an upset.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 7, 2024 22:33:39 GMT -5
This loss sums it up the year pretty well. Hell it sums up the entire program. Good atmosphere, great fans, constant let down and choking. We need a stud pg next year. Even with some great freshmen without a pg we are toast. And to top it off it is all in this shit league. The positive, at least this wasn't the hl finals. Nku still has that over their heads. Hopefully ysu can win it all. YSU lost tonight bud. Not gonna happen. Insult to injury, this thing was wide open for us had we won. I'm not your buddy guy! Damn. That sucks. Well I guess I'll put some money on nku winning. Yay
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 7, 2024 22:29:41 GMT -5
This loss sums it up the year pretty well. Hell it sums up the entire program. Good atmosphere, great fans, constant let down and choking. We need a stud pg next year. Even with some great freshmen without a pg we are toast. And to top it off it is all in this shit league.
The positive, at least this wasn't the hl finals. Nku still has that over their heads. Hopefully ysu can win it all.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Feb 25, 2024 16:45:53 GMT -5
This is the team I expected. Great win!
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Post by wsuairstrike on Feb 22, 2024 20:15:36 GMT -5
Typically terrible clock/game management at the end of the half. Gave Detroit an unnecessary possession and then blew our final possession by wasting the use or lose. That's a 4 or 5 point swing. It's every game. Just dumb decisions that never change. There is no reason to sit Woods. He was playing great and brings energy. But there he is, still sitting on the bench while the starters struggle against a bottom 3 school.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Feb 16, 2024 22:16:45 GMT -5
I agree with BBallRaider, there isn't a bad seat in the house. They also noted that parking in the orange/gold/green lot is the honor system, which I would also agree too. Parking has never been bad though. Someone noted there are 3 orange lots, which I was unaware of. The small lot I parked in/want to park in is closer to 220. The other orange lots provide little difference to me. I don't think I have seen multiple orange lot parking signs, other then that smaller lot. I'll check on Saturday's game.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Feb 15, 2024 20:48:15 GMT -5
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