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Post by 86grad on Mar 27, 2024 14:07:09 GMT -5
If Nagy is leaving, do you think Brian Cooley would be considered as his replacement?
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Post by hittmanraider on Mar 27, 2024 14:44:19 GMT -5
The problem is the WSU board is not going to want to interview HC candidates outside the program with no AD in place for another month or two. Cooley would be a great candidate but I think it will be Sargent.
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Post by hokieraider on Mar 27, 2024 15:47:42 GMT -5
So does Bob Grant hire someone in the next few days before he leaves? Otherwise, would be real bad for us....
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 27, 2024 15:48:13 GMT -5
I'm surprised another school would offer him after the last two years. He blew a lot of huge leads, looked uninterested, bad clock management, refused to try a press or zone when man to man wasn't working and it doesn't seem like he'll adapt to the transfer portal. He must be confident we'd suck next year and he won't have an extention. I was excited to see thus freshmen class play but who knows if that would have even happened.
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Post by hokieraider on Mar 27, 2024 15:58:28 GMT -5
Honestly shocked another program would want to hire Nagy at this point. The team has struggled most years under him without Loudon Love. This will sting for the short term but I think will be good for the program long term. I don’t think Nagy adjusted well enough to the portal era. Get ready for a team of transfers in next year. The perception of Scott Nagy's program is a lot more pessimistic inside the fan base than it is outside of it. We all think WSU is dangerous every single year. I think it's one of the best two jobs in the conference and I think most would agree. He's literally 167-91 at Wright State. Jim Larranaga won very little at Bowling Green in 11 seasons, had three NIT one-and-dones and then left for George Mason, where he won a couple titles and went to a couple NCAA Tournaments in his first eight seasons but didn't win a game. Then in 2006 he took them to the Final Four. In 18 years at Davidson, Bob McKillop had taken them to a few NCAA Tournaments and then in 2008 they went to the Elite Eight. Yeah, yeah, Steph Curry, yeah but McKillop recruited him. And these without mentioning that it took 40 years for Greg Kampe to break through and win that first NCAA Tournament game. Oakland didn't even go dancing in the HL until this season. What is that, 10-11 years? I think the expectations at our mid-major level are often blown out of proportion because we measure coaches by their NCAA Tournament appearances and conference titles, and if they don't get there they're seen as failures. You've got three regular season titles and two NCAA tournaments/HLT titles in eight years. I think that's an excellent rate of return. You finished two games back of the conference champion this season. Think of all the close calls over the year. You know how hard it is to beat a team three times in one season? Well, WSU almost did that against NKU. The margins at our level are razor-thin. I wouldn't judge Nagy too harshly. I've been saying all along that Nagy is the best coach we've had, and be careful what you ask for, as the replacement likely would not be an upgrade (or would only be a rental if we happen to get it right). While some naïve Raider fans are saying "good riddance", the rest of the HL teams' fans are surely rejoicing, because one of the 2 consistently dominant programs (along with NKU) in the league just took a big step backward. He'll also probably take several of our players with him, so the posters on this board will also get their second wish, for Nagy to embrace the portal -- at our expense. |
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Post by raider62 on Mar 27, 2024 16:41:58 GMT -5
If Nagy is leaving, do you think Brian Cooley would be considered as his replacement? This was my first thought as well. The program seemed to take a step backward when he left. |
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Post by Big D on Mar 27, 2024 17:07:55 GMT -5
Brian Cooley would be the smart choice, I’m afraid WSU will go with the easy choice and promote Brown to AD and Sargent as the next basketball coach just because it will be easier and cheaper to stick with the status quo. I like Sargent but he isn’t a program builder. He does a good job recruiting but he likes to recruit a small group of players each year and does a good job landing a couple of them. He isn’t equipped to refill 1/2 to 3/4 of a roster the way he recruits and if Nagy leaves we will lose a good chunk of our roster and recruiting class too. Cooley is much more prepared to become a head coach at this point in his career. Trice might come up in the papers due to his time as a local high school coach. If WSU went that way, it will be an absolute program ender. He should not even be on staff let alone our next head coach.
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Post by Dr J on Mar 27, 2024 17:21:35 GMT -5
If he leaves they would post the job. Brian would have the opportunity to apply.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 27, 2024 17:46:21 GMT -5
Looks like Cooley's salary is $200k. I'd gladly take a 150% increase for a new job. Hiring him would be an easy move tbh. It's hard to believe that no one would have talked to him when he was here for the play in game.
The easiest move of all is throwing more money at Nagy and extending his contract. If he was still invested or if the program believed in him, it would happen. Clearly both sides are ready to move on.
D, I don't think you have to worry about Trice. That would be an unheard of jump. Essentially going from almost all of your experience in HS to D1 head coach. Usually there would be some stop as a head coach at d2 or d3 lol.
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Post by bballraider on Mar 27, 2024 17:51:50 GMT -5
I'm hoping Nagy turned down the job, I really like our recruits for next year. I also enjoy our style of play. I don't agree with how Coach Nagy uses his bench (redshirts), but overall I am happy with the product on the court, and I think it can get better if he starts to adapt to some of the modern recruiting tools at his disposal.
Brian Cooley would definitely be on my short list for coaches to replace Nagy if he did leave. Our team took a small step backward when he left the staff.
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Post by Raider3G on Mar 27, 2024 18:55:37 GMT -5
Honestly shocked another program would want to hire Nagy at this point. The team has struggled most years under him without Loudon Love. This will sting for the short term but I think will be good for the program long term. I don’t think Nagy adjusted well enough to the portal era. Get ready for a team of transfers in next year. All these Illinois openings had many of us thinking he'd make the jump. This is needed. He benefited from Loudon and inherited a solid squad. To me, he's done all he can do here and while I like many soured on him the last couple years he did push WSU Division I basketball history forward |
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Post by Raider3G on Mar 27, 2024 19:20:52 GMT -5
Matt Vest an option? Rather would have him than Coach Sargeant if the only option are guys who have been college assistants....regardless, I wonder if what could be driving Nagy is if he wasn't offered an extension with only 2 years left on his current contract (especially with new AD coming in)...
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Post by bballraider on Mar 27, 2024 20:29:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure if anyone on SUI Insider forum has any inside information, but a few on there seems to think that Nagy did not take the job. SUI Insider forum link |
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Post by Big D on Mar 27, 2024 20:41:24 GMT -5
Not a chance in hell. He has no head coaching experience and next to no experience as an assistant. If Nagy leaves we would have hundreds of better options available. |
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 27, 2024 21:11:56 GMT -5
I'm not sure if anyone on SUI Insider forum has any inside information, but a few on there seems to think that Nagy did not take the job. SUI Insider forum linkIt also sounds like Nagy would be the style as their last coach: old school, struggles with the portal, and red shirts freshmen |
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