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Post by Glory Days on Mar 28, 2024 5:28:53 GMT -5
Quite honestly, if Nagy interviewed with Southern Illinois I hope he leaves. We dealt with a semi successful coach in Brownell for years who always had his foot halfway out the door looking for greener pastures instead of trying to improve his roster or staff. I want a coach focused on his job here trying to make Wright State the best program it can be. The program hasn’t been the same the last several years. A few fans like to say all of Nagy’s success was based on one player, London Love and that is just plain stupid. He was very successful at his previous school before he came to Wright State and it was never based on one player or another. I think the vast majority of our recent decline is based on Nagy losing his top 2 assistants and his father’s death. I don’t think it is a coincidence that the 2 assistant coaches that left coached for teams that went to the NCAAs this year while we got booted from the HL tournament in round 2. Brian Cooley ran our practices and I don’t think it is a surprise that our defense has gone to shit since he left. His attention to detail was always very impressive. Brian was also our recruiting coordinator and that coaching staff worked their asses off on the recruiting trail. They had to, because Nagy isn’t a good recruiter at all. I can’t remember the last time I even heard that he went off campus to recruit. He is a very old school coach that expects his assistants to find the right players and get them on campus and he acts as a closer. Our current staff just isn’t at the same level as our last staff in that regards. I think it is also evident that Nagy doesn’t display the same passion for coaching as he did before he lost his father. If it wasn’t for Clint Sargent, I don’t know if we would have even fielded a team the year after our other coaches left. Nagy took his good ole time replacing the rest of the staff and left it to Clint to keep the roster together and fill out the class. He got promoted to Associate Head Coach after that.
I think Clint Sargent could be a good head coach someday but I really think he needs to spend some time under another head coach first and gain some more experience and a different perspective on how to do things other than the way Nagy does it. I would try to hire Brian Cooley if it was up to me. If Nagy leaves, the next coach is probably going to have to do a complete rebuild of the coaching staff and roster. I think we lose all 3 recruits and anyone on the roster that has other options. I think Cooley is much better prepared to do that with his extra years of experience and connections in the coaching world. I think he will be able to put together a good staff. He is a respected coach that I think other coaches will trust their future with. I don’t know if many good assistant coaches will be willing to work for someone as inexperienced as Sargent and trust their future in his hands. I think he would get stuck putting together a really inexperienced staff of guys trying to cut their teeth in the college coaching world. We can’t afford to have a rookie head coach and staff especially in this new college basketball world with NIL and the transfer portal. We need a least a little bit of experience.
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Post by Big D on Mar 28, 2024 5:51:59 GMT -5
D, I don't think you have to worry about Trice. That would be an unheard of jump. Essentially going from almost all of your experience in HS to D1 head coach. Usually there would be some stop as a head coach at d2 or d3 lol. We should not have to worry about that but I am concerned since we don’t have clear leadership right now since Bob Grant is retiring to make that decision. As mentioned in the new AD thread, the University has made a lot of hiring decisions to make the university look more inclusive. The haven’t promoted or hired the most experienced or qualified individuals in all instances vs the most diverse individuals. I don’t want Brown promoted as head AD because it would be easy and it ticks a box to promote a female candidate and for the same reason I don’t want Trice given the job because he will be a popular choice with the local media and high school coaching world and he checks a box by promoting a minority candidate. I want the most qualified individuals for both jobs. Those individuals can be men/women, of any nationality, religious beliefs etc. I couldn’t care less about any of that as long as they are the best individuals for those jobs. Brown and Sargent might end up being the best individuals for the jobs, but I really hope we look at all our options before we just hand over the reigns of the 2 most important jobs in our athletic department because it’s the easy choices. |
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Post by madnesswsu on Mar 28, 2024 5:57:59 GMT -5
D, I don't think you have to worry about Trice. That would be an unheard of jump. Essentially going from almost all of your experience in HS to D1 head coach. Usually there would be some stop as a head coach at d2 or d3 lol. We should not have to worry about that but I am concerned since we don’t have clear leadership right now since Bob Grant is retiring to make that decision. As mentioned in the new AD thread, the University has made a lot of hiring decisions to make the university look more inclusive. The haven’t promoted or hired the most experienced or qualified individuals in all instances vs the most diverse individuals. I don’t want Brown promoted as head AD because it would be easy and it ticks a box to promote a female candidate and for the same reason I don’t want Trice given the job because he will be a popular choice with the local media and high school coaching world and he checks a box by promoting a minority candidate. I want the most qualified individuals for both jobs. Those individuals can be men/women, of any nationality, religious beliefs etc. I couldn’t care less about any of that as long as they are the best individuals for those jobs. Brown and Sargent might end up being the best individuals for the jobs, but I really hope we look at all our options before we just hand over the reigns of the 2 most important jobs in our athletic department because it’s the easy choices. I’m hearing CLINT SARGENT got promoted and will be the next head coach.. Waiting game 🫣 |
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Post by Make Some Noise on Mar 28, 2024 6:25:17 GMT -5
If Nagy is headed to SIU and Sargent is promoted, I’d wager that Nagy takes Bere with him since he primarily recruits Illinois for us. I think that also means Jaheem Webber won’t end up at Wright State. I think a lot of our current roster will stay since Sargent was the primary recruiter for most of them. Alex Bruskotter was recruited by Sargent too so there is a chance he sticks with his commitment but I would not be surprised if he looks around. Ayden Davis was recruited by Trice so no idea what he will do. No idea if Nagy will try to take anyone else from the staff with him or if Sargent will try to retain any of them. Should be a cluster for the next several weeks/months.
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Post by Title on Mar 28, 2024 6:48:08 GMT -5
If Nagy is leaving and Sargent is getting promoted, I also think Bere goes with Nagy. I honestly don’t know if Nagy would want to take anyone else with him. Trice will probably want to stay. He has never lived or coached anywhere else. I’m not sure Sargent should retain him. I’m not impressed with his recruiting so far. I hope Sargent already has in mind who he wants to add to his staff and can bring in some experienced guys. If he retains Trice and just promotes Nick Goff and Tae Gibbs from their support staff roles, I’m going to be concerned. You have to have some experienced recruiters on your staff.
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Post by ohiopirate on Mar 28, 2024 8:21:46 GMT -5
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Post by ohiopirate on Mar 28, 2024 8:29:19 GMT -5
Nothing about our program the last couple years says we should be seeking consistency by promoting from within for our AD and head coach position.
Multiple people have commented about a general lack of buzz around the program the past couple season - things feeling stale. That's not the time to keep the status quo.
I'd prefer Nagy stay because I think he's better than what we will find to replace him. But if he leaves, we need to interview Cooley or find some new blood to inject some excitement. I feel like it's going to be a rebuild even if we promoted Sargent so what's the point in going that route? If we can pay upwards of $500k we should be able to get someone with head coaching experience or a top level assistant that would be getting looks from other programs. Sargent ain't it.
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Post by nuttercenterfan on Mar 28, 2024 8:45:06 GMT -5
Im really hoping its not just guaranteed that Sargent is the next hire. If we don't at least have a national search then this program isn't headed in right direction. Let the best man be hired AFTER a search.
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Post by wsuairstrike on Mar 28, 2024 8:55:14 GMT -5
That is so surprising to me. I know little about SUI other then what I read in their message board. It doesn't sound like an upgrade and seems really odd to move to a school that has had less success then us, and also in a tougher conference. Sucks we are probably going to lose this freshmen class but we needed a change. Hopefully they do an actual search and then make a decision. Again, I find it hard that Cooley wouldn't have been informed while he was here. If it is Clint, maybe he does have more modern philosophies but was held back by his boss. We will see. Also why can't Grant be a part of the hiring process? He's still employed with us and at a minimum we should hire him as a consultant to get us over this mess.
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Post by wsuraider12 on Mar 28, 2024 9:13:23 GMT -5
That is so surprising to me. I know little about SUI other then what I read in their message board. It doesn't sound like an upgrade and seems really odd to move to a school that has had less success then us, and also in a tougher conference. Sucks we are probably going to lose this freshmen class but we needed a change. Hopefully they do an actual search and then make a decision. Again, I find it hard that Cooley wouldn't have been informed while he was here. If it is Clint, maybe he does have more modern philosophies but was held back by his boss. We will see. Also why can't Grant be a part of the hiring process? He's still employed with us and at a minimum we should hire him as a consultant to get us over this mess. I wouldn't say this is much of an upgrade at all. The writing is on the wall, new AD that didn't bring him in and a dinosaur coach not willing to keep up with constantly evolving game. If the rumors are true of 6 years, that's probably much more than what is on his current contract here so take it and maybe retire at the end of that deal. I get everyone being worried, we've had a great stretch, but things have changed so much since Covid and we have been a worse program. This is a chance for some fresh ideas. South Dakota St. seems to be doing just fine after Nagy left there so I don't understand the thought that it will be automatically worse. I'm excited to see a coach with passion that doesn't just stomp his feet at players and pout on the sidelines. I'm excited to see someone that can take advantage of transfers and not just redshirt players for them to leave after a year here (or no years playing at all). Maybe someone that can call timeouts during the other team's runs? Draw up a player before the half or end of game that is more than give it to your best offensive guy and see what happens? Nagy was great here, glad he came. This is a great chance to grow the program and build what he put in place before it continues the last few year decline. |
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Post by Big D on Mar 28, 2024 10:05:49 GMT -5
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Post by Retired Coach on Mar 28, 2024 11:00:38 GMT -5
If Blake’s article is accurate this is one of the dumbest decisions ever. If you are going to hire Clint, then hire him. You can’t give him a one year interm contract. He won’t be able to put together a staff or roster on a one year deal. He would basically be a dead man walking. I hope it is inaccurate. I’m ok with hiring Clint. I think he has seen what has worked and what hasn’t in his time here. I hope he learned from it and makes the most out of his chance to be a head coach because if he fails, he probably won’t ever get the opportunity again. If we sign him to a cheaper contract than what Nagy had, I hope they make the rest of that money available to Clint to use to put together an experienced staff. And I really really hope Clint embraces the portal and JUCO players and stops redshirting everyone and utilizes a deeper bench. |
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Post by raiders93 on Mar 28, 2024 11:04:50 GMT -5
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Post by Big D on Mar 28, 2024 11:05:26 GMT -5
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Post by Black PantherU on Mar 28, 2024 11:08:41 GMT -5
If Blake’s article is accurate this is one of the dumbest decisions ever. If you are going to hire Clint, then hire him. You can’t give him a one year interm contract. He won’t be able to put together a staff or roster on a one year deal. He would basically be a dead man walking. I hope it is inaccurate. Look at Charlotte this season. Ron Sanchez left last spring, they elevated Aaron Fearne to interim coach for a year, finished third in their first season in the AAC and ripped the interim tag off Fearne in February. It's been done many times before. You're also running into a massive issue in your AD search if you hire a permanent head coach first. Whatever pool of candidates you have gets smaller when the AD can't pick their own head coach. And the candidates who drop off will be the best candidates. Everyone wants to hire their own guy. Next season isn't lost but it's better to sacrifice one season by giving Sargent time to "prove it." You've gotta get the AD hire done right first. |
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