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Post by Raider Alumni on Mar 17, 2021 20:48:27 GMT -5
Intercollegiate Athletics Committee: Trustees Trying to Determine Full Impact of Athletics at WSU wsuguardian.com/wsu-intercollegiate-athletics-committee-2/Trustee Andy Platt agreed with his fellow trustees, and added an emphasis on the importance of looking at recruitment and retention opportunities to ensure the long-term success of athletics and Wright State as a whole.
“I look forward to working with everyone here on seeing how we can find possible opportunities to include athletics in our work to increase our enrollment and retention numbers at this university, because that is so important as we look to the future of Wright State,” Platt said.
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Post by Rowdy on Mar 21, 2021 8:38:48 GMT -5
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Post by hhgreen on Mar 22, 2021 20:35:53 GMT -5
Don’t sound too good if these people are going to be able to do what they want to do. Div. 3 or no athletics period. If they keep talking like that our coaches and players will look elsewhere.
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Post by Big D on Mar 22, 2021 22:18:40 GMT -5
Don’t sound too good if these people are going to be able to do what they want to do. Div. 3 or no athletics period. If they keep talking like that our coaches and players will look elsewhere. The faculty union is the only ones talking about dropping sports all together or dropping to D3. It isn’t an option for the people that matter, our board of trustees and president. We are lucky that they understand the positive PR and exposure we get from athletics. For example, there have been more positive articles, media coverage, social media shares about what our women’s basketball team did today than ALL positive articles about the university’s academics for the last 6 months combined and I’m not exaggerating one bit. Name recognition is huge for a school like Wright State. Athletics is the biggest source of positive branding the university has going on especially with the disgraceful job our faculty union did to disparage our universities name when they went on strike. Today was a great day for Wright State athletics especially since it wasn’t our cowbell program, men’s basketball. When our other sports teams can also show how much they help our branding as a university it just further proves why Wright State needs athletics. Way to go lady Raiders!
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Post by raiderrunt on Mar 22, 2021 23:11:01 GMT -5
Don’t sound too good if these people are going to be able to do what they want to do. Div. 3 or no athletics period. If they keep talking like that our coaches and players will look elsewhere. The faculty union is the only ones talking about dropping sports all together or dropping to D3. It isn’t an option for the people that matter, our board of trustees and president. We are lucky that they understand the positive PR and exposure we get from athletics. For example, there have been more positive articles, media coverage, social media shares about what our women’s basketball team did today than ALL positive articles about the university’s academics for the last 6 months combined and I’m not exaggerating one bit. Name recognition is huge for a school like Wright State. Athletics is the biggest source of positive branding the university has going on especially with the disgraceful job our faculty union did to disparage our universities name when they went on strike. Today was a great day for Wright State athletics especially since it wasn’t our cowbell program, men’s basketball. When our other sports teams can also show how much they help our branding as a university it just further proves why Wright State needs athletics. Way to go lady Raiders! Well said, Big D!
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Post by hhgreen on Mar 23, 2021 6:06:46 GMT -5
Big D now that sounds a lot better. Just talking about this crap makes me mad considering our first win in a NCAA round of play just happened yesterday.
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Post by Title on Mar 23, 2021 6:28:26 GMT -5
To further what Big D said, volleyball just won the HL. Baseball is in a commanding lead of the HL. If both can have some post season success this spring we are going to get even more positive media exposure. That will be even more fuel to the fire as to why athletics means so much to Wright State. I just wish men's basketball could have also had some post season success this year. As much media exposure our other sports get, men's hoops success gets 10 fold the exposure and would have really helped our cause even more.
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Post by vandaliaraider on Mar 23, 2021 7:47:17 GMT -5
Here is a great tweet on what exposure athletics can do. Look at the number of mentions!
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Post by Raider3G on Mar 23, 2021 18:20:19 GMT -5
Here is a great tweet on what exposure athletics can do. Look at the number of mentions! Good on Grant to push that.
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Post by OG Raiderfan on Mar 28, 2021 17:50:47 GMT -5
After reading this article, I think this is in part what this new committee is looking at. In the past, the faculty union has tried to compare Wright State's athletic budget to direct revenue it brought it. That would only include athletic specific donations, athletic specific corporates donations, ticket sales, etc. Based on that alone, our athletic department does not make money. Many here have already argued the positive PR and general exposure athletics gives us. This article points out some of the indirect revenue athletics creates for the university as a whole, specifically bringing in students athletes to the university that aren't on scholarship and create revenue for the school. We are currently under the NCAA D1 limit for sports and we sponsor 10 sports. For those 10 sports, the NCAA allows a max of 104.7 scholarships (many of which are divided among players). We have 201 athletes on those 10 teams, so almost 1/2 of our student athletes are paying to attend Wright State. The full cost to attend Wright State for 1 year (tuition, housing, books, and living expenses) is $25,796 for in state students and $35,214 for out of state students. So our student athletes paying their own way to attend Wright State are bringing in at least 2.48 million to the university and that could be as high as 3.39 million if they were all from out of state. If you read the few recent articles about this new committee forming to look at athletics, I think they are also looking at how our club teams help us out too. We have a lot of club teams listed on our website, I don't know much about most of them but I do know that our dance team, cheer teams, club bowling, and club football teams all recruit student athletes to attend Wright State. Those club sports and spirit units alone add another 70+ student athletes to Wright State that probably wouldn't otherwise be going here. That's another 1.8 million to 2.5 million brought into the university through athletics. There has been some speculation early in this thread on what sports Wright State might be looking to add to get us back to the D1 minimum by 2022/23. Based on the above article and the fact that Wright State has started this committee, maybe Wright State will go big and bring in some sports like Lacrosse, hockey, or bring back the swimming and diving teams that don't use many scholarships but have large rosters, which will help increase the overall universities revenue. Here are the links I used to come up with my data above: Cost to attend WSU: www.collegecalc.org/colleges/ohio/wright-state-university-main-campus/College scholarship limits: scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimitsWSU club sports: www.wright.edu/student-affairs/health-and-wellness/campus-recreation/sport-clubs
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Post by ohiopirate on Apr 6, 2021 15:41:37 GMT -5
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Post by Raider Alumni on Apr 11, 2021 10:26:16 GMT -5
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Post by Big D on Apr 11, 2021 10:54:00 GMT -5
No, no, no. You are looking at this the wrong way. I think hiring an outside firm is an absolute brilliant idea by our BOT. We aren't getting rid of sports. This committee was formed to show how important athletics is to Wright State. The faculty union and only the faculty union wants to cut spending on athletics. It was a major point of contention when the faculty union went on strike in 2019. The BOT knew that was a completely moronic idea back then and continues to feel that way now. Starting this committee and hiring an independent firm to run a real analysis on how athletics helps the university is a way to prove why the university needs athletics and will be used to justify future spending on athletics in the budget. If you read the article quoted above, one thing that popped out to me is that the committee wants to have it's recommendations to the BOT within the next year (sometime in 2022). If you go back and look at the articles about the faculty union strike, the current contract Wright State signed with the faculty union ends in 2023. This committee and hiring a firm to do this analysis is our BOT laying the groundwork for it's next fight with our faculty union in it's next contract negotiations. We aren't getting rid of athletics and we are going to have the FACTs to back it up (thanks to this committee and outside firm) when the faculty union wants to bitch and moan about athletics.
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Post by raiderrunt on Apr 11, 2021 21:22:41 GMT -5
Big D....thanks for pointing that out. I was looking at it from a different perspective. I feel a lot better about it now.
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Post by Cheerfan on Apr 27, 2021 18:07:51 GMT -5
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