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Post by refrigeratorraider on Sept 3, 2023 11:13:06 GMT -5
"Graduate Student" appears to be how WSU athletics is categorizing 5th-year seniors using their COVID year. Holden and Calvin are both still listed as undergraduate students in the WSU student directory.
Almost all second-time transfer football waiver requests have been denied. It doesn't look good for Tanner getting a waiver.
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Post by Wolf on Sept 3, 2023 11:27:53 GMT -5
"Graduate Student" appears to be how WSU athletics is categorizing 5th-year seniors using their COVID year. Holden and Calvin are both still listed as undergraduate students in the WSU student directory. Almost all second-time transfer football waiver requests have been denied. It doesn't look good for Tanner getting a waiver. One of the main exceptions to the second transfer rule is if it is for the athlete’s physical or mental health. If you have ever followed an athlete at Ohio State on social media I don’t think you should have much of a problem making an easy argument that Tanner needed to transfer for his mental health. Ohio State fans, like many fans from major college programs, have obsessive fans. They treat you like gods when you are successful. They are the complete opposite and very abusive when you aren’t living up to their expectations. I doubt it would be very hard for Tanner to provide a few texts, emails, social media posts to the NCAA demonstrating this abuse. There is no chance in hell that the NCAA wants to deny a waiver for a kids mental health and I’m sure Ohio State is fully supportive to try to keep this as private as possible. This fan behavior is wide spread and would be a big black eye for everyone if it became a bigger story. I still have faith Tanner is going to play this year. |
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Post by wsuairstrike on Sept 7, 2023 23:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by Wolf on Sept 7, 2023 23:48:35 GMT -5
As I previously stated, the main exception for the second transfer is a student athlete’s mental health concerns. The kid in the article obviously didn’t provide enough evidence to support his claim to the NCAA. We all need to hope that Tanner’s team did a much better job providing evidence on his behalf. We will find out in the next 6-8 weeks. |
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Post by wsuairstrike on Sept 8, 2023 6:42:18 GMT -5
As I previously stated, the main exception for the second transfer is a student athlete’s mental health concerns. The kid in the article obviously didn’t provide enough evidence to support his claim to the NCAA. We all need to hope that Tanner’s team did a much better job providing evidence on his behalf. We will find out in the next 6-8 weeks. We have no idea what they submitted for this person. I would have to think UNC has more resources and influence than we do with the NCAA. So based on that, looks bleak. |
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Post by Big D on Sept 8, 2023 7:53:20 GMT -5
We have no idea what they submitted for this person. I would have to think UNC has more resources and influence than we do with the NCAA. So based on that, looks bleak. We don’t have any idea what UNC or the other 2 schools submitted on his behalf. We do know that the optics for his case look like they could just be fabricated so a kid from a lower tier of football can move up a tier. (I’m not implying he is lying about anything. I’m just saying the optics for it look bad). For someone with mental health issues you would have to assume that moving to a higher tier of football where there will be even more stress on him doesn’t seem to make sense for someone with mental health concerns. We also don’t know how well Kent State documented his issues while at Kent State for the NCAA. That matters a lot more to the NCAA than what UNC documents because they have nothing to gain whereas UNC does. In regards to Tanner, we also don’t know what anyone submitted to the NCAA on his behalf. I think it benefits him that Ohio State (with all their resources) is supporting his transfer and were pretty confident in his appeal before Tanner even made the decision to transfer. I also think it benefits Tanner that he is moving down a tier to WSU so you can make a good argument that he will be going to a less stressful environment for himself and he is walking away from significant NIL money at OSU so you can make a good argument that he really is taking a step down for his mental health. No matter what we say here, we are all just speculating. It’s in the hands of the NCAA now and we have several more weeks before we find out. In order for us to have the type of year we want for our Raiders we need Tanner this year. Let’s all just hope and pray this works out in our favor. |
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Post by kingnebwsu on Sept 8, 2023 8:11:07 GMT -5
Agreed with the above comments. If this was the regular season we would at least have something to distract us but we have a few months still so all we can do is speculate.
I know I'm not alone in saying that I think about this often and look for a corollary situation or anything to give us an idea of where the NCAA will lean for Tanner.
Not knowing is tough! The waiting is even tougher.
I think part of this is that a lot of us have had high aspirations for the program for years and see this ruling as potentially raising the ceiling to possibly the highest it has been since the Raiders have joined Division 1.
If Tanner is eligible and if our team (especially the big guys) can stay healthy then this season could legitimately be the best in Wright State's Division 1 history. No hyperbole.
That last paragraph is what is at stake with this ruling and I think a lot of us see that which is why anything that happens generates immediate discussion because this single bureaucratic ruling could change the course of a program.
I want Wright State to be one of those teams pulling a major first round upset that is talked about for years to come.
I think Tanner needs to be starting and playing at a high level for this to happen.
Hoping for some good news on this in the weeks/months ahead.
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Post by Big D on Sept 8, 2023 8:53:49 GMT -5
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Post by ohiopirate on Sept 8, 2023 16:43:15 GMT -5
Speculating here as well, but you have to assume transferring back to a familiar/previous school also helps Tanner's case. He's not just searching for a new/better opportunity. He's returning someplace he has roots and and can prove/show it was good for him to be here.
I'd love to see a list of transfers that returned to their former school (if there are any) and whether or not those waivers got approved this year.
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Post by freewind on Sept 11, 2023 7:46:13 GMT -5
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Post by ohiopirate on Sept 11, 2023 9:56:32 GMT -5
That's the spirit of what I was hoping to learn about, but since that article is about 18 months old I'm not sure how relevant it will be to Tanner's case under the new transfer rules cracking down on multiple transfers.
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Post by raider62 on Sept 14, 2023 7:27:25 GMT -5
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Post by freewind on Sept 14, 2023 11:31:36 GMT -5
4 different schools in 4 years, sheesh
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Post by Big D on Sept 14, 2023 18:09:07 GMT -5
Stop posting random articles about kids from other programs in this thread. The title of this thread is pretty clear “2023/24 men’s basketball roster”. If you want to discuss OUR roster post about it here. I don’t want to see this thread hijacked again.
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Post by Admin on Sept 15, 2023 11:59:44 GMT -5
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